HTC Hero, coming July on Orange and T-Mobile, makes me want!

Just wondering is there software on the phone for GPS navigation or is that extra? If it isn't on the phone can you buy TomTom or Garmin for Android yet?

there's free gps navigation software available and it's pretty decent apparently.

There are cooked roms with flash working on the G1 so it's not hardware limited.
 



Essentially, Android has divergent development paths, the 'Google' path is apparently fairly strictly controlled and this is what you would receive with any Over The Air updates.

Don't let the headlines fool you. If you own a "T-Mobile G1 with Google (NSDQ: GOOG)" or plan to own the "myTouch 3G with Google" you are going to be sorely disappointed.

The crux of the matter falls to the "with Google" addendum to the G1 and myTouch. Remember, Android comes in three distinct variants. The variant that is branded "with Google" is controlled strictly by Google, and cannot be changed. This is the style of Android (version 1.5) that is running on the HTC G1 and on the myTouch 3G. That means no third-party user interface overlays for those two phones, which is exactly what Sense is.

HTC has confirmed this for me in past conversations. The G1 and the myTouch, both available from T-Mobile will not be able to take advantage of this new user interface from HTC.

The one thing to keep in mind is that HTC will make other, non-Google branded Android devices, such as the Hero, which was announced yesterday. These phones can and will run Sense. So, when Peter Chou said that Sense UI can be used on other devices, this is what he was talking about: The Hero, and subsequent follow ups to the Hero that don't have Google branding attached.

However, anyone who chooses to root their hardware will have access to it.
 
Yeah rooting bypasses any of the restrictions set in licensing by "with google" devices.
 
Looks like many of the usual sim free places like mobiles.co.uk, expansys etc have the Hero for pre-order (coming within the next 4-8 days) for £399.99...

Its been a long while since I looked forward to a phone but I think I shall be purchasing one of these shortly after growing tired of my Blackberry Curve 8900.
 
Looks like many of the usual sim free places like mobiles.co.uk, expansys etc have the Hero for pre-order (coming within the next 4-8 days) for £399.99...

Its been a long while since I looked forward to a phone but I think I shall be purchasing one of these shortly after growing tired of my Blackberry Curve 8900.

I can't find it for less than £429.99?
 
Thanks. :) I must admit we aren't sure if its allowed or not. I'll let a don know you've removed it and if we think it is OK after all I'll let you know and you can replace it again. :D
 
Its no trouble matey. Fully respect the forum rules and in fairness it never crossed my mind until you mentioned it.

As an avid Overclockers customer, I certainly don't want to let any of their competitors in, so happy to leave it as is :)

Still... won't stop me from buying what appears (to me) to be one of the more exiting phones coming out this year. Fingers crossed it will be out sooner rather than later (i.e within the next couple of weeks).

Curiously I am not a massive Facebook or Twitter fan, but just love the idea of having everybody's details, photo feed's, messages etc all compiled in the one address book. Think they have trumped Apple slightly in certain aspects of their OS...
 
the phone is good an all but the only thing i mind is the Qualcomm processor, which really is a letdown, i was expecting HTC to use nvidia tegra which are due in the next few months in handsets. What makes it better are its abilities to play/output 1080p and include 12mp cameras.

 
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