LLoyds TSB's "Islamic Account"

I just belive in keeping Britain as a majority Christian country.

i would just love to see us christain people going over to the likes of pakistan and iraq and building churches, and christian schools, asking for christian bank accounts, non-halal food

we would get shot.!

:) Have you ever been outside of the UK/had an education? Christianity has a very long history in the middle east and there are plenty of Christian churches there! Not to mention that plenty of the banks are owned and run by western companies. Although I'm sure that doesn't fit in with your bigoted view of the world so feel free to ignore the facts.
 
It's "just" another one of the many hundreds of different bank accounts out there.

The fact that it's tailored to a specific set of beliefs is neither here nor there, much the same as you can get "ethical" banking (in many forms), or banking via traditional English banks*, "normal" ethical accounts (depending on exactly what you're worried about I beleive there are specialist accounts for different "ethics"), building society accounts, etc.

It's much the same as the fuss over "halel" butchters, is nothing greater really than the likes of the Kosher butchers that have been operating almost anywhere there have been Jews for many hundreds of years, or butchers that only deal with free range animals, or stores that don't sell meat at all.

*is a misnomer as tehre are many types of "traditional English" account.
 
You better leave this country then while you still can. I hear the Phelps are looking for new members!
 
Sticks and stones will break my bones but names will never hurt me!

That tends to only apply if there isn't any substance behind the accusation.

I'm not name calling either - there's nothing personal here - I'm just calling it how I see it.
 
I guess the difference between this and food analogies is that food can be prepared in different ways (according to culture and religion etc). However at first glance money...is money.
 
Sticks and stones will break my bones but names will never hurt me!


How long have Muslims being living and working over here? Have they ever needed a Muslim bank account in the UK before? No

Sticks and stones it is then. :p

I don't know exactly, but if a Muslim's religion prevents them from using a normal bank account, and there are no alternatives, they'd probably just hide the money in their house somewhere. Same could be said for you, or anyone.

Sure, they don't NEED the account, just as you don't NEED one.
 
I guess the difference between this and food analogies is that food can be prepared in different ways (according to culture and religion etc). However at first glance money...is money.

do you really care if somone choose not to take interest on their bank account?
 
Well in my family which are British for at least 8 generations, we've never needed a special school, bank account, butcher, etc... Surely being British is about adopting a culture and not trying to adapt it to your own background?

But you're talking about nationality here, we're talking about religion.

I'd say being British is having the freedom to follow whichever religion you want.

We are lucky enough to live in a country where you can follow whatever religion you want to without the fear of being killed over it (well, in theory :p)

Your nationality, being british, surely dosen't dictate what religion you want to/should follow?

How long have Muslims being living and working over here? Have they ever needed a Muslim bank account in the UK before? No

As others have said, do people realise these accounts have been around for ages, it's nothing new. So with regards to your last statement they probably already have them :) Granted they were with specialist banks but Lloyds have beein doing this for over 2 years now anyway. And in the past they might not have needed them, but doesn't stop them wanting them :p

I'm just playing devils advocate btw as I really don't see a problem with it. I know that yes it's probably the case that the majority of islamic followers are people not originally from this country, going however many generations back. Should we be like other countries whereby if you don't follow a certain religion you are persecuted?

I really don't see the problem people have with this.

Personally I don't actively follow any religion.
 
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It's much the same as the fuss over "halel" butchters, is nothing greater really than the likes of the Kosher butchers that have been operating almost anywhere there have been Jews for many hundreds of years, or butchers that only deal with free range animals, or stores that don't sell meat at all.

*is a misnomer as tehre are many types of "traditional English" account.
Great point, I was considering something similar but couldn't put it down in words.

It blows my mind that businesses are offering a service which appeals to a unit of society... and now those members of society for some reason get everything there own way and that this is in some way outrageous? I seriously worry about the mindset of some members, it's almost like they are trying to find people to blame their lives on.

It's barely different from choosing to eat vegetarian food at a restaurant.
 
Great point, I was considering something similar but couldn't put it down in words.

It blows my mind that businesses are offering a service which appeals to a unit of society... and now those members of society for some reason get everything there own way and that this is in some way outrageous? I seriously worry about the mindset of some members, it's almost like they are trying to find people to blame their lives on.
It's barely different from choosing to eat vegetarian food at a resteraunt.

My opinion is that these people simply do not want given groups in the UK. Since they cannot actively throw them out, they would prefer to make their lives as difficult as possible even if there is no cost (or even a benefit to banks as in this case).

Also I would love for someone to find out where interest bearing current accounts was actually innovated. As I mentioned in an earlier post, they didnt exist in the UK until the 70s onwards. My guess would be the USA.
 
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