I feel shafted after buying Vista...

XysteR

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... I bought Vista Ulitimate and Vista Home Premium, to be honest i've not been impressed at all over the last couple of years of using them. Crashes, having to reinstall, IE problems the list goes on & on, i came to the conclusion that i pretty much shelled out quite a lot of money on what is effectively beta software. Even with SP2 people still experience far too many problems. I haven't heard much of Windows 7, lots say its what Vista should have been and that it runs a whole lot better than Vista. My question is: How much will Microsoft shaft me to 'upgrade' to Windows 7 (something i should have had in the first place?)
 
XysteR said:
... I bought Vista Ulitimate and Vista Home Premium, to be honest i've not been impressed at all over the last couple of years of using them. Crashes, having to reinstall, IE problems the list goes on & on, i came to the conclusion that i pretty much shelled out quite a lot of money on what is effectively beta software. Even with SP2 people still experience far too many problems. I haven't heard much of Windows 7, lots say its what Vista should have been and that it runs a whole lot better than Vista. My question is: How much will Microsoft shaft me to 'upgrade' to Windows 7 (something i should have had in the first place?)
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If you've had all those issues I would be looking at either your computer hardware or your own computer skills - sorry. As far as I'm concerned Vista is the best OS Microsoft has ever produced. I installed it on day one, I have it on three PC's of varying ages and specs, oldest being six years old now and one a poorly spec'd Laptop and it runs flawlessly on all three machines and always has. No crashes runs fast etc. etc. and I for one having used W7 will not be upgrading anytime soon.
 
Almost all crashes are down to bad drivers. Do you get blue screen crashes? If so post or email me some files in c:\Windows\Minidump and I/someone else can tell you what's actually causing them.
 
XysteR said:
... I bought Vista Ulitimate and Vista Home Premium, to be honest i've not been impressed at all over the last couple of years of using them. Crashes, having to reinstall, IE problems the list goes on & on, i came to the conclusion that i pretty much shelled out quite a lot of money on what is effectively beta software. Even with SP2 people still experience far too many problems. I haven't heard much of Windows 7, lots say its what Vista should have been and that it runs a whole lot better than Vista. My question is: How much will Microsoft shaft me to 'upgrade' to Windows 7 (something i should have had in the first place?)
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There is defiantly something funky going on. Persistent problems are normally down to a hardware fault and / or to do with drivers. And out of interest, what are the problems that you're having that warrants a complete reinstall of the entire operating system?
 
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Surely both computers cant be bad? I've had the same problems on both. Sometimes when the computer starts up it'll load into windows and say something like IE needs to restart.. Sometimes it states my internet security aint running or working when it clearly is. The Vista premium machine fails so many times when doing updates. However the Vista Ultimate machine is fully upto date. Even that machine sometimes recovers from something or other as soon as it loads into windows. I've never had a bluescreen yet though. I mean i like Vista, but in my experience its just a polished turd. Its basically XP with aero and changes to the layout. Hence the reduced performance in games compared to XP.

I know quite a lot about computers, bios setup etc. My main computer is a pretty powerful machine, overclocked and water cooled by myself, i have tried it on stock settings, same problems. I dunno, its just weird. Saying that though i do use the computer for a hell of a lot of things not just gaming. My main rig in my sig is mainly a gaming system. The other is used a lot for music production / imaging, astronomy, gaming when my friend comes for beer etc.

I'm pretty tempted to install OS X on my second computer, i've not long since installed Leopard on my laptop (awkward to do but worth it) its totally rock solid stable in comparison to both my other machines, it's not even whinged once!
 
I think you need to look at your own hardware rather than Vista, i've honestly found it to be the most stable OS i've used, two computers that belong to me and about another 10 I care for and they are all just pootling along without any interaction from me.
 
People that are of the "give up and downgrade back to XP" mindset should not be installing their own OSes in the first place.

Installing an OS is not meant to be easy. It can be, if all the cogs come together right. But there is no guarantee. This is why most pre-build PC's come with the OS and drivers preinstalled. If you're building a PC you should be prepared for some hassle, whether it be device drivers or hardware conflicts.

The problem is that these days everyone has gone soft. 95% of builds go fine so people think it will never happen to them. But when it does they freak out and just go back to whichever OS they know best. Then they spend another two years posting on internet forums like this one saying "zomg vista was so unbelievably carp - it almost hosed my new pc!!11 xp for evar!" and try to tell everyone about how their friends with SP1 or SP2 are still having the same problems...
 
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If you've had all those issues I would be looking at either your computer hardware or your own computer skills - sorry. As far as I'm concerned Vista is the best OS Microsoft has ever produced. I installed it on day one, I have it on three PC's of varying ages and specs, oldest being six years old now and one a poorly spec'd Laptop and it runs flawlessly on all three machines and always has. No crashes runs fast etc. etc. and I for one having used W7 will not be upgrading anytime soon.
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I still have my Vista x64 install from Jan 2007 on main PC( Athlon x2 3800+ cpu) ,no BSOD and its very solid,I have Win7(uninstalled old XP for Win7 upgrade) on a different PC and to be honest both the same on stabilty ie excellent,even my laptop has Vista x86 and again no issues very solid and nippy.

I'm sure the issues you have are either hardware or driver issue,Vista is stable as Win7 in my experience.

Sad thing is when people do get issues they blame the OS straight away without any real troubleshooting ,if I did that I would been blaming XP and other operating systems over the years for problems when they were not the culprit.

Its basically XP with aero and changes to the layout. Hence the reduced performance in games compared to XP.
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Not quite true,Vista is now up there with XP nowadays.
Don't forget to update DX9.0C part of Vista to latest version http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...38-DB71-4C1B-BC6A-9B6652CD92A3&displaylang=en some games need it even in Vista ,you still get DX10 in Vista.


Back to your problem what does Problem/Reports and solutions say in Control panel?
Run Memtest 86+ to test memory,any unusual third party software you are using ,anything overclocked?
Take it from me Vista is a very solid OS ,if you got issues then something else is causing the problem.
 
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speedyj said:
Vista 64 has been the most stable OS I have ever used, I cannot remember it ever crashing on me, not once.
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Kriist said:
I'm the same. Vista has been VERY stable for me (apart from driver support, which they've fixed in 7).
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matt0r said:
Indeed, had vista ultimate 64 for a while now and it has still yet to crash on me.
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And another. :) Though I may be tempted to upgrade to 7 when it's released.
 
Vista is great except for two reasons; 1) it's a hardware hog, and 2) the networking is rubbish.

Thankfully W7 fixed that.
 
reflux said:
Vista is great except for two reasons; 1) it's a hardware hog, and 2) the networking is rubbish.

Thankfully W7 fixed that.
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Depends on hardware ,sure if you are going to be using old XP spec hardware,network issues can't say I have any,fast downloads,online gaming and beta games testing is great with low pings ,wireless connection too has been solid.

End of the day no OS is perfect and users will get issues regardless,even console gamers get issues, we live in an imperfect world.

Btw have they fixed punkbuster yet with Win7?
 
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