A question to pc gamers
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Does Not compute !!!
6800 is more than 6 months old so your argument is flawed so is the 8800.
My friend was still using a 1800xt to play the latests games until about a month ago at 1440x900 which is still higher than the consoles at 720p until i sold him 2 3870 & he will be using them for a good 2 years at least.
Hes not interested in the latest & greatest.
It funny that the people who have moved over to mainly console had a problem with not being able to go 6 months with out upgrading.
You must have been using one hell of a monitor because even i can go for nearly 2 years with a set of gfx cards on my 30" 2560x1600
I have a 360 elite & a limited edition PS3 160gb- 720p avg 30fps no AA/AF is nothing to boast about.
Allot of people eat more takeaways & ready meals than they used to, that does not make them better than a good old home cooked meal.
Gaming has become more mainstream & accepted & thats why the console has taken off & not because it has taken players away from the PC, but because the consoles has gotten people who never used to play games in the first place.
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I actually agree with this to some extent. When it comes to multiplayer fps - especially those that focus on twitch aiming or pinpoint accuracy - I prefer a m&k. For single player, more immersion driven experiences, I tend to prefer using a pad. I think it's a combination of analogue movement and having to take careful and steady aim. It just feels more like firing a real weapon.
The pad gives more feedback and i prefer it. I don't think i contradicted myself at all. Do you know the meaning of the word?
Exactly. The jolt when firing a weapon adds so much to a FPS.
Yeah..if you want the feeling that you're controlling a tank with those controls i suppose.
I'm sure there are many, many valid points for either side of the fence. Personally, I've been limited by finance for the last 5 years to my old sempron 2800, with a Geforce 6700 LE - it was cheap when I got it, but it still ran C&C3 when it came out. Nowadays I've got a split collection, purely on the basis that some games play better on one platform. Action (X-men origins) & action RPGs (Star Ocean) do better on consoles. FPS & strategy need a PC. I'll never feel the desire to plug a gamepad into my PC, the same as I'd never plug a keyboard into a console. Can't people get by on both, or don't I have enough drains on my payslip?
On a lighter note, I've always preferred PC gaming. Why? Because I'm supercilious. Nothing says 'better than you' like a top-notch gaming rig. Xbox faceplates just don't do the trick for me.
On a lighter note, I've always preferred PC gaming. Why? Because I'm supercilious. Nothing says 'better than you' like a top-notch gaming rig. Xbox faceplates just don't do the trick for me.
Because, it'd reduce the risk we get shoddy coded games that run bad.
Because it'd mean we'd get no cut down versions, with features left out that are in the consoles.
I don't care if it's a pc exclusive personally, but I do care about brand new graphics without keeping the obsolete chips in the consoles in mind, I do want games developed well for pc with no cut down features, controls designed for mouse & keyboard, I want them to run well and be tested reasonably, etc...
Basically, I don't want rubbish ports, or controls that don't feel right/ too slow for pc players. I miss the days of FPS PC games based on the Q3 engine, who all felt nice to play, differently than a port of GTA IV from consoles ( I'm not on about the performance, but the slow animations and unresponsive controls in general).
What has six months got to do with it? My point is that I do not want to upgrade too often. I have other thngs to spend money on, rather than buying the latest hardware. It is also a good point as there is more to life than buying the latest GPU.
PC hardware is made redundant all too quickly. I do not care so much for massive resolutions, the PC plays on 1650 x 1050 and the 360 on a 32" Samsung. They both look pretty good. It is all that matters to me and the average person.
People have other hobbies other than just lusting over the latest teraflop card. Consoles cater for them very well.
You sound like some of my thumb challenged pc only mates. They say the same thing while they're running about shooting the ceiling, floors and walls in TimeSplitters. Bad workmen an all that
Some fps are just more suited to pads, just as some (i'd argue more) are suited to a mouse and keyboard. There's also the Wiimote/Nunchuck - Metroid Prime: Corruption certainly wouldn't be as good with either a m&k or pad setup. I'd actually love a decent analogue peripheral similar to the nunchuck to use in conjunction with a mouse. It's time for digital movement to go the way of the dodo.
Six months is the standard argument made.
Your Xbox 360 is only pushing 921600 pixels while your 8800 which is more powerful is pushing 1732500 pixels which is just short of double & may have AA & more AF & running with better effects.
Run your 8800 at the same res as the 360 & NO AA for a fare comparison.
Redundant in terms of when its no longer of use to the user or because it fails & not because better hardware has come out.
The avg person does not worry about upgrading the PC at all.
The avg persons PC that comes to me for service is anywhere from 3-9 years old.
You have things back to front.
Only enthusiast worry about the things you claim & they only make up 1% of PC users & even only % of them have a upgrade before they need to bug.
Any hobby can be expensive & is down to the person as to how often they buy at the cutting edge & does not have to because new stuff comes out.
Its the individuals problem if they feel what they have is no good any more every time something new comes out.
Your happy with medium res & lower frame rates, i have no problem with that, but im allot more fussy, the PC gives me the choice of having things how i want & not how things are given.
The only problem i have is people claiming that there is little difference between consoles & PCs and that we should all just use consoles for gaming.
Quality comes at a price & if you want it you pay for it or you go without.
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...'Pads' are pants for FPS titles, especially on consoles.
As has been said kids will grow up without a PC in their life, as it were, and technical knowledge will disappear from a generation as they just have no clue. They'll just want to switch on, choose a game and pick up a pad. Thats it. Oh yeah and jabber incessantly 'in game' 
As has been said kids will grow up without a PC in their life, as it were, and technical knowledge will disappear from a generation as they just have no clue. They'll just want to switch on, choose a game and pick up a pad. Thats it. Oh yeah and jabber incessantly 'in game'
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...'Pads' are pants for FPS titles, especially on consoles.
As has been said kids will grow up without a PC in their life, as it were, and technical knowledge will disappear from a generation as they just have no clue. They'll just want to switch on, choose a game and pick up a pad. Thats it. Oh yeah and jabber incessantly 'in game'
Very True,
I have got my borthers into gaming very early.
My youngest brother 6 Owns the xbox360 and a gamecube, he saves his pocket money once a week and i take him the local gamestation or Market, where he picks a game, and completes it in the week.
When he is 10 ill get him into pc gaming
Other younger brother, got him into pc gaming at 14, he owned consoles before, but got rid of them now, he now knows more than me
So i ask him for help allot of the time
Taking him to his 1st lan this year.
...'Pads' are pants for FPS titles, especially on consoles.
As has been said kids will grow up without a PC in their life, as it were, and technical knowledge will disappear from a generation as they just have no clue. They'll just want to switch on, choose a game and pick up a pad. Thats it. Oh yeah and jabber incessantly 'in game'
That's exactly what's happening for the avg youngster when it comes to the PC.
The PC is looked at by them as just a workhorse which funny enough is what it originally was.
They like & get used to the gadgets & like mobile phones, mp3 players, console ect... but they don't fully understand or know of the capabilities of the one that has been around from before they were born.
But that is not the fault of the youngster as the PC is not pushed as a gaming platform these days.
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Well you did contradict yourself, as you specifically gave the very bizarre reason of not wanting to use a keyboard & mouse as "too easy"... so you elected to not use something based upon it's ease of use being greater.
Now of all the arguments about consoles vs PC there is only one of them that stands up to any kind of scrutiny. Ease of use. How to get a game from the stage of being in a cellophane wrapper to the point of you having your polygonal feet on the texture mapped ground in a server is vastly simpler and more user friendly on a console than a PC.
Spotted your contradiction yet?
I think Halo, one of the greatest FPS multiplayer experiences ever released on console or otherwise, would have something to say about that.
They can work, just not all the time.
I think Halo, one of the greatest FPS multiplayer experiences ever released on console or otherwise, would have something to say about that.
They can work, just not all the time.
The halo games are the only FPS that i can play with a Pad.
KillZone-2, killed 2 baddies on the first level & gave up until i get hold of KB & mouse remap-adaptor.
Im thinking that i may be able to remap my Belkin N52TE to work without an remap-adaptor if it holds the remap without the software, but i will need one for the mouse.
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Console FPS has come along way tbf, and tbh I think the vast majority of people that say FPS should never be on a console are living in the past or simply haven't played on one for long enough. I don't even think the two should be directly compared as they're completely different experiences. The use of a pad on a console is a different style of play and once you get used to it, it's easy to see why some people prefer it. Like I do much prefer to play COD4 and 5 on 360 or PS3, the experience is just more fun imo. However I would never dream of plugging in a 360 pad into my PC to play Crysis etc as FPS games developed for PC are normally best suited for keyboard and mouse in the same sense that FPS designed for consoles are just as suited to a pad.