A question to pc gamers

IamMed said:
I don't think anyone wants an "exclusive" game for the PC really.

What people want is games that aren't rubbish ports from another machine.
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pc gamers dish good ports as well though and still keep complaining about that one game (gtaIV) which in fact is much worse on consoles.

classic argument " pc gets all the bad ports like gtaIV " the pc version of gtaIV is way better than the console version and after all its just one game.
 
Simi said:
I have never seen such an obvious troll post (the OP) and everyone fed it :(
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How on earth is it an obvfious troll post. The guy is posting to refute the glut of posters who consistently pop up saying "PC gaming is dead", and he has a point. Just because you don't agree with them doesn't make them a troll, in fact in all honesty yours is the most troll-like post in this thread.
 
I'm sorry that you disagree but I still see it as a trolling post coming into the pc gaming forum and asking what makes pc gamers think they're so special that games should be pc exclusive (or even made for pc at all)

Those are the cliff notes of the OP, aren't they?

Seriously, how is that not a troll post?

I wonder if you and I are talking about the same post because I don't see the original first post trying to refute a glut of pc gaming is dead, I see it giving that fire a bit more fuel to burn.
 
Warbie said:
You sound like some of my thumb challenged pc only mates. They say the same thing while they're running about shooting the ceiling, floors and walls in TimeSplitters. Bad workmen an all that ;)
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When you're used to the accuracy of a keyboard and mouse using 2 thumbsticks is a drastic change since the pinpoint accuracey is no longer there. Its like every fps turns into tank turret controls, gets boring and seems pointless considering the altenate controls of mouse and keyboard is 100x more accurate.
 
Spektor said:
Well you did contradict yourself, as you specifically gave the very bizarre reason of not wanting to use a keyboard & mouse as "too easy"... so you elected to not use something based upon it's ease of use being greater.

Now of all the arguments about consoles vs PC there is only one of them that stands up to any kind of scrutiny. Ease of use. How to get a game from the stage of being in a cellophane wrapper to the point of you having your polygonal feet on the texture mapped ground in a server is vastly simpler and more user friendly on a console than a PC.

Spotted your contradiction yet?
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Nope. Still not seeing it.

If i would have said that i find it easier to use the pad, and that m&k are easier to use, then yes, its a contradiction.

What i said is that the pad gives a more involving and immersive experience. Force feedback, pulling a trigger to shoot and analogue movement (for walking ).
 
Gerard said:
When you're used to the accuracy of a keyboard and mouse using 2 thumbsticks is a drastic change since the pinpoint accuracey is no longer there. Its like every fps turns into tank turret controls, gets boring and seems pointless considering the altenate controls of mouse and keyboard is 100x more accurate.
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Yea only if you suck! So many people just try it for an instant, give up and then slate it, the two are completely different you need to get use to it and not all console FPS games are the same either which it seems you are making out.
 
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Gerard said:
Its different and pointless considering the much more accurate alternative.
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It isn't pointless when some games just aren't available to this more accurate alternative. Killzone 2, Resistance 2, Infamous, Uncharted and Halo 3 are all shooters (or in the case of infamous contain shooting elements) worth playing and i doubt will ever see a PC release. I've said this in the past; to write off quality games because of their control method just doesn't make sense to me.

Fair enough if the game is likely to see a PC release, wait for it, i know i did with games like Mass Effect that just played better with a kb+mouse, but some games never will.
 
Streeteh said:
It isn't pointless when some games just aren't available to this more accurate alternative. Killzone 2, Resistance 2 and Halo 3 are all shooters worth playing and i doubt will ever see a PC release. I've said this in the past; to write off quality games because of their control method just doesn't make sense to me.

Fair enough if the game is likely to see a PC release, wait for it, i know i did with games like Mass Effect that just played better with a kb+mouse, but some games never will.
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Not a matter of writing them off because of their control method, if theyre not on the pc platform then its pointless bringing them up. Not everyone with a pc has a console either. I owend a 360 for a few years and found the controls to be adequate at best for console fps, but given the choice every time id choose a keyboard and mouse over a joypad.
 
Gerard said:
Not a matter of writing them off because of their control method, if theyre not on the pc platform then its pointless bringing them up.
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Surely when it's a debate about why PC gaming has changed, the fact that there's quality shooters (a genre that was once a PC only affair) only available to consoles is a significant point, as opposed to one that's 'pointless to bring up'?
 
Gerard said:
Its different and pointless considering the much more accurate alternative.
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It's not really an alternative though in all instances. There are many FPS games on consoles that aren't on PC and visa versa, being close minded just means missing out. The fact there are many exclusive console FPS games obviously means that platform isn't that bad (which imo it's not).
 
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Nanoman said:
It's not really an alternative though in all instances. There are many FPS games on consoles that aren't on PC and visa versa, being close minded just means missing out.
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Nothing to do with being closed minded, i had all 3 consoles and most of the time they did nothing but collect dust.
 
Streeteh said:
Surely when it's a debate about why PC gaming has changed, the fact that there's quality shooters (a genre that was once a PC only affair) only available to consoles is a significant point, as opposed to one that's 'pointless to bring up'?
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There were always shooters on consoles that most people would clas as quality shooters, goldeneye being a good example as well as the medal of honour series. I don't think quality shooters on consoles has anything to do with pc gaming changing at all.
 
Gerard said:
There were always shooters on consoles that most people would clas as quality shooters, goldeneye being a good example as well as the medal of honour series. I don't think quality shooters on consoles has anything to do with pc gaming changing at all.
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I disagree then, shooters are one of the most popular genres, especially amongst those of a 'pick up and play' mentality (by that i mean supposed 'casual gamers'). Up until this generation online was not a widespread feature of console shooters (which arguably is one of the most important parts of a shooter), this was largely restricted to the PC, now however you have some high quality shooters with brilliant online (Killzone 2, Resistance 2 and Halo 3 are all excellent) only available to consoles and top quality shooters exclusive to the PC are in the minority (Crysis is the only one i can think of). Wrap this up into an easy to use package and you've got the attention of a huge portion of gamers wanting a simple means for a quick blast of FPS multiplayer.
 
From all ive heard about resistance 2 and killzone theyre good "console" shooters but would make for average pc shooters. Ive played through halo 3 co-op and it was pretty good though.
 
Gerard said:
From all ive heard about resistance 2 and killzone theyre good "console" shooters but would make for average pc shooters. Ive played through halo 3 co-op and it was pretty good though.
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I don't agree with the opinion that they're average tbh, Resistance 2 maybe, but Killzone 2 is really high quality and would be incredibly popular even if it wasn't an exclusive. The singleplayer was quite short but still above average but the multiplayer is really fantastic. It's just incredibly polished, it has all the staple game modes that a good multiplayer FPS should have but with little twists to keep them interesting, the way a game transitions between game modes seamlessly without a loading screen is also excellent.
 
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