Absolutely FUMING (Arrogant GPs)

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Right I don't want this to be a medical thread, I'm just going to outline the details of what happened and then comment.

About a month ago my father started getting nasty coughing fits and shortness of breath (this is not going to be a swine flu story by the way). At first we thought it was a cold and he'd get over it, but after a few days it wasn't showing any signs of improving so he went to visit his GP.

I've been to this same GP and other GPs like them who have exactly the same arrogant "I've been to medical school for 7 years therefore I'm brilliant" attitude, and this is the kind of cocky **** who will always have already decided what's wrong with you before you've finished listing all of your symptoms. It's as if they're in a hurry or they are having a race with their colleagues to see how many patients they can zip through in a day, trying to get rid of you as soon as possible.

This **** kept interrupting my father, literally cutting him off, telling him there's nothing wrong with him, that it's just hayfever related allergies (despite the fact that he's 54 and never *ever* had coughing from hayfever, EVER, but obviously this GP didn't listen). So she prescribed him some inhaler that made it a little easier for him to breathe (not exactly a cure), and pretty much said he'd have to deal with these problems for the whole summer. Sounded like crappy advice but the GP was more qualified than anyone else in our family, right? :confused:

Anyway, the symptoms did not show any signs of going away despite the inhaler; the hard coughing continued for a few weeks until my mother said enough was enough and took my dad to the A&E about 4 hours ago.

It turns out, all this time he's had PNEUMONIA, and just had a chest x-ray which confirmed it. He's now going to be in a hospital bed for the next 4 days being treated for something that should have been diagnosed a month ago. :mad::mad::mad: People can die from pneumonia, and I shudder to think how much worse the situation would have been if my dad wasn't taken to A&E.

A misdiagnosis happens from time to time, and I'm willing to accept that, but FFS, if you are a GP, at least let your patient FINISH HIS ******* SYMPTOM DESCRIPTIONS before you kick him out of the door with a mickey mouse prescription. I mean seriously, how hard is it to listen to 60 extra seconds of patients describing their problems? Perhaps if you did, you'd learn to do your job properly and perhaps save lives.

Is it me or is it impossible to find a decent GP nowadays? I personally have been through 4 different GPs, all Indian, all with exactly the same DISGUSTING arrogant attitude, and all equally useless, one of which no longer practices after misdiagnosing stomach cancer for heartburn, resulting in a death. :rolleyes:

At the risk of sounding racist, I do wonder if any of this would have happened if my dad was Indian. I'm sure he would have been treated as if he was "in the club" so to speak, and all of this could have been avoided because the GP actually cares about a "familiar".

It reminds me of a few times sitting in the waiting room, watching an entire indian family of 6 go into the GPs room (pushchairs & all) while everyone else is kept waiting for an extra 30-60mins, and I can hear them being all chummy and laughy and giggly as they are exiting, speaking in Gudgerati or Hindi, as if they were cousins or something. Yet when Mr Whitey walks in, time is suddenly short where a precious 30 seconds could mean a correct/incorrect diagnosis of pneumonia :mad:

It makes me feel physically sick and fills me with rage. Sorry about this post but just had to vent :mad:

TL;DR version: It seems GPs around here are complete morons with more self-important attitude than genuine caring, with a possibility of racially preferential treatment. They care more about letting their patients know how great they are (by pretending to be amazing at diagnosis) than actually sitting down and taking the time to work out the illness.
 
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i had to see the doctor here and was amazed how much better it was than back home. 30mins with the GP no rush and went through everything.

Back home normally in and out in 5mins.


EDIT, he even brought me a load of sample drugs so I don't have to pay prescription charges :D
 
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30 minutes with a GP? That's astounding :eek: I dont think I've ever had a GP who's seen me for longer than a few minutes. :mad:
 
You want to try my GP, she talks way to quickly and every now and then she slips into Urdu. It got so bad about a year ago that I actually had one my Indian friends teach me a few phrases so I could **** with her head.
 
You do get the arrogant GP now and then, especially people from that part of the world.

But at the same time you get some clever ones that listen and know what is going on.

My GP is white and hes cool, however his 2nd in command is an old white man that thinks hes Mr Know it all, so arrogant. He looks like the guy from the Matrix you know the mainframe guy.

Personally I would complain to the medical body. This is a matter of life and death, am glad your dad is ok now.
 
You want to try my GP, she talks way to quickly and every now and then she slips into Urdu. It got so bad about a year ago that I actually had one my Indian friends teach me a few phrases so I could **** with her head.

Thats a pretty good idea, I will have to remember that one. **** with my GP's head when I require medical assistance.
 
When I was six, my doctor poked my penis with a lolly stick. She was a reeeaaaly old indian woman, and I have no recollection of why it happend.
 
My GP is a joke. I have a sleep disorder so he followed advise with the treatment, different pills the specialist said would work... None did. He then refused to give me sleeping pills because ''they're addictive...'' - ADDICTIVE??? WHO CARES??? I will only need to take them FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE ANYWAY, MORON! Was having none.
 
Gudgerati

It's spelt Gujarati :p


My GP is pretty bad too... before we started at Tiffins he diagnosed me with Asthma and gave me inhalers and all. My Dad did not believe this and got a second opinion and was told that it was probably just a mild chesty cough :rolleyes:.

I used to go into the surgery with a list a points to discuss because he would fob me off too (and we are both Indian, and my GP is a family friend).

The funny thing is, he has stopped practising because he was dismissed for not ensuring his staff attended all training courses. When my Dad last spoke to him, his excuse was "it's not my fault they didn't want to go" :eek:


Anyways, I hope your Dad is alright and that he gets better soon!
 
My GP is a joke. I have a sleep disorder so he followed advise with the treatment, different pills the specialist said would work... None did. He then refused to give me sleeping pills because ''they're addictive...'' - ADDICTIVE??? WHO CARES??? I will only need to take them FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE ANYWAY, MORON! Was having none.

Same here.

Well first when I was 21 I was "too young" and this year, "they're addictive".
Yet he's let me take pain killers with codeine in which I've forced myself to stop as it really is addictive in the way that, it makes me feel "good".

But, I don't like any GP I have ever had, they've never look into any of the problems I've been complaining about for years (some more than 10 years :( ), you know I've found out more from people who've had the same problem and then checked with another GP/then doctor to find out what I've got.
 
it happpens mate. They managed to misdiagnose my sisters Hodgkins Lymphoma, despite complaints of serious heart palpatations and a host of other issues. Even when she pushed for xrays, they did 3 on her chest and still managed to miss a tumour the size of a large apple in there.

Glad your dad is ok.
 
You should be able to make a formal complaint regarding the GP in question. Better to make a constructive complaint outlining your problem than venting on here, but I'm sure most sympathise with you.

Sorry to hear about your father.
 
You do seem to get them that know better, however in some cases it just comes down to trial and error.

I had aching knees, so bad that I couldn't sleep. I was told it was because I was working in cold store and needed to stretch before work and that I was overweight.

My memory was, and still is going through patches where I can't remember the name of the film I watched last night as well as headaches that last for several days. This has been going on for 2 years. GP says I need to lose weight.

Depression and issues with motivation, symptoms of a mental illness or just a lack of sleep. GP says lose weight.

Psoriasis on my face and itchy palms and soles of my feet, its not psoriasis and I can't have itchy feet/hands!

That's several doctors over 5 years!
 
i hope your father gets better

personally i have very little experience with hospitals and GP's as i am invincible obviously

my friend said the hospital his mum was treated and eventually died was utter crap and no-one cared, so i would be on the lookout for incompetence if ever friends or family are in hospital.
 
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It's as if they're in a hurry or they are having a race with their colleagues to see how many patients they can zip through in a day, trying to get rid of you as soon as possible.

I mean seriously, how hard is it to listen to 60 extra seconds of patients describing their problems? Perhaps if you did, you'd learn to do your job properly and perhaps save lives.

Not meant to make excuses, just giving background.

They are in a hurry because, if they keep patients waiting too long, the patients will either complain, or fill in back "feedback forms". Both of which lead to a financial penalty. NOT to the GPs themselves (their salary is not linked), but the practice takes the hit. So that is bad for all the patients.

They are only allowed 10 minutes PER patient. That includes time to get them in the room, to closing the door on the way out. An extra 60 seconds is an extra 10% of time. If you did that with everyone, see above....

The GP system is "broken" because of the targets imposed on them. They make the best out of a bad situation. Unlike other countries, where GPs are free to actually TREAT patients, GPs here are more like "risk managers" and "hospital gatekeepers". Again, blame el-gordo and chums.

If it makes you feel any better, even "if" he had been treated earlier, he might still have gotten pneumonia anyway, it happens. This you have to be sure to do, make sure he gets better, and request your GP for a REPEAT x-ray in 4-6 weeks.
 
At the risk of sounding racist, I do wonder if any of this would have happened if my dad was Indian. I'm sure he would have been treated as if he was "in the club" so to speak, and all of this could have been avoided because the GP actually cares about a "familiar".

It reminds me of a few times sitting in the waiting room, watching an entire indian family of 6 go into the GPs room (pushchairs & all) while everyone else is kept waiting for an extra 30-60mins, and I can hear them being all chummy and laughy and giggly as they are exiting, speaking in Gudgerati or Hindi, as if they were cousins or something. Yet when Mr Whitey walks in, time is suddenly short where a precious 30 seconds could mean a correct/incorrect diagnosis of pneumonia :mad:

Was actually going to write a serious response but now just laughing at that.
 
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Personally, I find my GP's surgery to be pretty good (Theres one doc who no-one ever wants to see however, so you can always get a short-notice appointment). However, I know of some who are exactly like you described.
 
Sorry to hear the OP's story. I personally haven't had any problem with GPs, mine speaks very good English (he is of Oriental origin) and has done a good job for me so far. My sister just got diagnosed with pneumonia recently too, her doctor (same surgery, different GP) looked after her very well, got her into hospital quick, got the x-ray results back quick too.

I guess the government's idea is that if your primary care trust lets you down, you're supposed to move to an area with a good PCT. But they don't live in the real world do they? :(
 
I've had good GPs here in Cheltenham but some a couple of pretty bad ones at uni. Very tempted to get BUPA through work when my pay goes up a bit, don't get it for free but it is discounted so, if their adverts are to be believed, it might be worth pursuing.
 
My GP is great.

BTW the govt expects GPs to see a patient approximately every 7 minutes, thats their target. Doesn't mean everyone gets or needs 7 minutes. Unless it was very early stage the GP should have picked up lung sounds on your father from properly listening to his chest.

Why don't you sue, he's certain to have **** notes of the event and be completely unable to defend himself, as he won't remember the case. Just ask for your notes first before he has a chance to change them to reflect what he judged to be the issue.

Likely his defence association will settle out of court if the notes are poor.
 
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