Absolutely FUMING (Arrogant GPs)

Sounds like a lot of these doctors think they are house but without the smarts :D

I havent had anything wrong with me in over 10 years....problem solved
 
My father has a serious life threatening medical condition, and I could tell you some really horror stories. The NHS is an expensive waste of time.
eggyoke said:
She told me to drop my pants and lie down and she then felt up my legs and told me its nothing to worry about. She then recommended me to wear those "stocking tight" things to see if it'd help, but then suddenly burst into uncontrollable laughter. While admittedly the thought of wearing tights is funny, she couldn't stop laughing and in the end I just had to leave :eek:
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She wasn't laughing at the tights ;)
 
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My word! It was after the examination and going through a list of possible treatments! Not during feeling my leg up and down! :p

AFTER the examination when I was once again dressed and sitting at the desk, she first said to try anti-inflammatories which might help, but I declined. She then said the only other option was to try the tights, I then laughed which started her laughing to the point of being unable to stop.

God, a guy opens his heart and gets laughed at :(

:D
 
I understand the OP's frustration, especially since it concerns his father. However, it seems like there are several posts in this thread that could be considered openly racist. I'll concede that there might be some bad GPs out there, but I would suspect that there is in fact an equal number from each ethnic group.

Also, I doubt most people appreciate that pretty much everything they do and every decision they make now is heavily influenced by the government. Every time you are rushed, it is because they're expected to meet a certain time limit. Every time you come away disappointed because you didn't get the treatment or procedures you expected, it's generally because those things cost a lot of money, and they are given very tight budgets and strongly encouraged to save money wherever possible. The government is cutting NHS budgets every year, but these people are expected to maintain the same level of service. I suspect that your GP, like anyone in a similar role, would rather err on the side of caution with every patient and send anyone complaining of a cough or chest pains off for a chest x-ray. It'd make their job really easy if they gave everyone who came in exactly what they wanted. It's just not possible. It's very short-sighted to thing that they are doing it because of arrogance or apathy though. This all comes down to money, and the trail of blame leads back to the government.
 
OP - Were you in the room when your dad was having his consultation?
I only ask because you are relying totally on your dad's side of the story.
Now I know what you are going to say at that point, however men don't like doctors.
Neither of my granddad's liked them, my dad wasn't keen.
They may have been family, but when they came out telling us about the doctor we had to take absolutely everything with a pinch of salt for all three of them - because there was a very good chance the truth was embelished.

Now as for mis-diagnosis, if I had the time I could tell you a long story about that.
However Pneumonia, although a lot more common over recent years is still not the first thing that a doctor will diagnose, especially if not all of the information is given to them.
18 months ago I had what I thought was a nasty cough that had gone chesty.
I was finding it difficult to breathe and a walk upstairs was terrible.
The thing is, when I went to the doctors I played things down.
My doctor could only diagnose on what I'd told her and I was sent away.

A week or so later I awoke on a Sunday morning to find I couldn't breathe.
I had a trip to hospital, I too had Pneumonia and on top of that I'd managed to get blood clots on my lungs.
Basically I'm lucky to still be here now.
But I still can't really blame my GP.
A GP is skilled at many things, master at nothing and add in the fact that most people play-down their symptoms and "older" people's general distrust of doctors......

Not saying that happened here, but there are always two sides to all stories.
And unless the general consensus about this doctor is he's rubbish you have to accept both sides.
 
GPs are now paid a lot more if they rush patients through without really listening to them and to do only the very basic tests that GPs get paid for (even if they are competely irrelevant to a particular patient). They're also penalised if they do their job properly.

The system is fundamentally broken.

I had a very good doctor for years. He was fast with patients because he was capable and efficient, not because he wanted more money. Some people said he was a bit abrupt, but I liked his straight to the point approach to physical medical problems. Find the problem, find a solution, job done.

Then he retired. Now I have a different doctor every time I go and it's pot luck as to whether they are processing patients to tick boxes on government forms or treating patients as effectively as possible.

Going private used to make a lot of difference, but with the current system of paying GPs I'm not sure it does. GPs used to go private to make as much money as possible. Now they can milk the NHS system to make as much money as possible. ~15 years ago, though, I found that the difference was night and day. Persistent pain in one testicle...see a doctor...get referred to a consultant...get a provisional appointment for about 15 months later. I was worried enough to part with almost a week's pay for a private appointment. Two days later. With the same consultant.
 
Heofz said:
Anyway, the symptoms did not show any signs of going away despite the inhaler; the hard coughing continued for a few weeks until my mother said enough was enough and took my dad to the A&E about 4 hours ago.
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Do you not think a follow up appointment would have been a bit more sensible rather than waiting weeks until it got so bad you had to go and use up A&E resources.

I love it how people assume Doctors are supposed to give a faultless diagnosis with stuff as vague as a cough - perhpas they should spend lots of time and money sending everyone who comes in with a cough for lots of through tests - or perhaps the reality is that lots of people come to them with coughs every day and the vast majority don't need to prescribed anything. I mean come on - if the condition doesn't get better then go back and tell them so they can re-asses.
 
My GP told me that it's likely I had arthritis or gout even though it was obviously a simple sports injury (sprained ankle/ligament damage). I all but told her exactly what was wrong (I just wanted to know how to make it better) but she made me have 6 blood tests to confirm I didn't have arthritis. Waste of 2 months. She wouldn't listen despite me forcefully telling her I DIDN'T have arthritis
 
i refuse to see male Doctors for this reason...

I went to my doctor with depression, and an eating disorder. He pretty much laughed at me, and told me to grow up. Came back a week later and saw someone else and they gave some counsiling and some drugs.
 
Put in an official complaint to the practice noting the date and time of the appointment, what was prescribed etc and then details of the A&E visit and the diagnosis and the treatment since. Your dad might also be entitled to compensation but at the very least a complain would hopefully see that doctor get his head on a stick.
 
Heofz said:
30 minutes with a GP? That's astounding :eek: I dont think I've ever had a GP who's seen me for longer than a few minutes. :mad:
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Last time I saw my GP I was made to feel that unless I was ill, I was wasting his time being there - all I wanted was a check up, blood test/cholesterol/BF and general health check, MOT type thing. Nope, I was wasting his time as I'm not ill :/ It took me 3 weeks to book an appointment to be seen in 2 minutes and 34 seconds (I timed it).

I can completely understand your frustration and anger - it's shocking.
 
My local doctors are a nightmare. They are all asian males who you simply cannot understand. They mumble and can barely speak coherant english.

This of course does not matter considering the majority of their patients are also asians who it would seem can understand them perfectly :rolleyes:

The receptionists are great however and its relatively easy to get an appointment.

One thing that really annoys me was mentioned here earlier. When ever i and the GF go to see the doc we have to make either a double appointment or 2 separate ones. But when ever im there i see asian families all go in together and take upwards of 30mins at a time. Over time its painfully apparent that the docs do not mind seeing whole asian families in one go but not white/non asians.

Of course you feel like you cannot mention this or ask as you would be deemed racist and probably struck off the register!

They also have a very dismissive attitude to you. A while back my GF was hit from behind in a car accident and had bad back pain and so on. The pain was bad enough to effect her ability to work ( as a teacher ) due to constant pain in the lower back. The doctor heard the words "car accident" and simply dismissed her pain as probably someone trying it on and apparently was more interested in making her have a flu jab then actually offering some kind of pain relief or physio.

In the end she went private and got a 6 week physio course that all but fixed the problem allowing her to work without pain, this was only possible due to the other party admitting liability and paying for the private health care.
 
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My partners GP is fantastic, takes as much time as needed and is a very good listener. Shame that the rest of them at the surgery dont seem to care. Our old surgery was the same, 1 doctor who was actually passionate about what they did and the rest just "there." The pharmacy wont even order in parts of my other halfs grandads repeat prescription anymore because he is the only person that needs them. Instead her poor nan as to find a pharmacy that will, a job which she just isnt fit enough to do. To the OP I had a very similar experience when I was younger. I was lethargic, lost all taste and had difficulty keeping warm. Was taken to my GP and told that I had a slight cold and would be fine. It wasnt untill I nearly passed out and was rushed to the doctors that my mum was told that the doctor who had previously seen me had infact diagnosed me with Pneumonia but not bothered to tell us.
 
the education doctors are getting is on the decline, the standards to keep up are worsening, limiting the treatment they refer people for is seen as a good thing.

The NHS is broken and getting worse, but its been on the decline for ages with all the money going to the wrong sectors. For a decade every time 2 nures and 1 doctor should have been hired with more money, they've instead got 1 nurse and 3 paper pushers all tracking where the money's going, making reports and recommendations and pushing doctors to not treat things if they can get away with it. Joke of a system.

From day one the system has been flooded with people with colds and flu's who can't have anything done and rush to the doctors the first day they feel a little bad.

Instead of doctors only seeing serious infections like pneumonia, after 3-4 days at least when you know its serious. THey'll get 30 people in every morning saying they are dying asking for antibiotics and really only have a cold/flu. The fact that one of those 30 actually had a more serious infection, but the same symptoms and the doctor had little time to diagnose them isn't really their problem. I mean it is, but they are often pushed into these problems by the situation.

The other problem is, some guy who spends 30 years in a GP, 98% of his cases will be nothing, literally nothing, colds, coughs, flu's, backache after someone strained themselves, they have such limited experience and its been so long since they worked in a hospital that they quite literally don't have the experience to diagnose everything easily or well.

GP's should not be allowed to be GP's, there should be NO GP's, doctors should work in hospitals, gp clinics, huge ones, should be in the hospitals and various people spend a week down in the GP and the rest of the month in other departments doing real work.

Everyone should also be charged a £50 surcharge for every appointment, if its found you only have the flu/cold/something that doesn't need treatment you are charged, anything serious, you don't pay. Will keep thousands of people across the country daily from wasting peoples time.

The system is completely and utterly broken.

But complaining about indian people, and using a language with other indian people that they feel more comftable in, or the fact that a family of at 6-7 people takes longer than a single guy is all retarded, and isn't borderline racist, its flat out racist with no excuses.

There are bad doctors and gp practices across the country, white, black, asian, rich, poor, old young. A bad doctor is a bad doctor.

LIke the last post, you can't hate all male doctors because one was bad, you can get female doctors that will ignore symptoms of depression aswell.
 
My 2p worth looking from the GP point of view:

PNEUMONIA = inflamation of the lungs.

I currently suffer with asthma & hayfever, as a result I am at a higer risk for developing Pneumonia, this is what I have been told by the GP.

It could be that this is indeed what you dad was suffering from at 1st which has then developed into Pheumonia. In this case the GP was right to perscribe the medication he did. It is just unlucky Pheumonia was contracted.

On the other hand, he should never have been Arrogant, and should have fully listened to him. However they are on a schedule and have other people to see, because of this they really need to try and keep things short and sweet. End of the day it is a 'free' service, private is the way forward if you want a better service.

I do hope your dad gets better soon.
 
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