Absolutely FUMING (Arrogant GPs)

Angilion said:
Swine flu, admittedly, has been hugely over-hyped. It's much less dangerous than many other strains of flu and has only killed hundreds of people.
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Wow. The world health organisation should really offer you a job as you clearly know a great deal more about this than they do.
 
My 0.02c is that the asian doctors in this country are absolutely terrible (im only speaking from PURE experience so don't crucify me). They are far to curt and seem to apply the attitude of "hey this dude isnt critically ill, back in india he would be out in the rice fields".

The tax is paid through my family, is paid VERY well, and we only go to the doctos once every 5 or so years, and only when something is really wrong.

I would expect slightly better.
 
If you want to include the GP that diagnosed my mother in law (who had lung cancer) - He told her she needed a new matress as it was this that was giving her a sore shoulder, then recommended a different pillow. Then after 14 months - and 5 visits to him with various pains and losing weight / coughing continuously (and nothing mroe than painkillers) decided she needed an X-ray (only to find the cancer had now spread to her spine, and brain and Lymphnodes ) - she died 3 weeks later.

Or the same doctor that told my wife she couldn't have pethedine during childbirth as she was allergic to Aspirin (even though the midwife said that was a load of rubbish - and she gave her 2 injections no problem)

Or the same doctor that told my wife she had just taken an allergic reaction to a fish dish on holiday (she was covered in red lumps everywhere the day after returning from spain) - only for her to be admitted to hospital 3 days later with chicken pox which had spread to her lungs - and she was having severe trouble breathing)

:rolleyes:

One of the reasons I no longer visit GPs & the wife now goes Private with work & has been diagnosed correctly.
 
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I've had nothing but problems with the NHS, I dread it almost as much as using the court system to resolve issues.

For example, I had a lump in my neck and the doctor was very unbothered saying I could have it taken out if it bothers me otherwise just leave it. Luckily it was big enough that it looked odd in my neck that I went back and requested they remove it (i was early teens). Turned out to be cancer, if I hadn't got it removed I probably wouldn't be here now.

I also had an ingrown hair in my back, had to have what should have been quick and small bit of surgery to remove it, woke up after surgery with tons of padding and my back hacked to bits. They also did the stitches up so tight that I got blood poisining from the wound and to polish it off they had accidently used non dissolving stitches so had to go back to get them removed which felt nice... aaaagh. I now have a nice big crazy scar like someone has been at my back with a flymo.

More recently, I have indigestion and self diagnosed myself from a lot of Googling and knowing my fathers symptons (same as my own) to have half a clue what I'm talking about so went to the doctor to talk it over. Was told to go on medication as could be a bug. Sure, i'm not a doctor - he's a pro and I take his word, so take the medication for 6 weeks, no change. Went back and they did a blood test, got the results, all clear.

Finally think they're going to have a look and check out my stomach but nope, they want to do another 6 weeks on the pills. Not because they think it will fix it because they know it won't but the doctor said it was needed for politics reasons with the guys at the hospital...

I declined the pills and asked he go back to them, telling them i've already done the pills and am now waiting and have been for weeks on if they're going to let me be seen by someone who can actually help.

Sounds like I go to the doctors a lot from what I've just said but I very rarely see a doctor or a hospital just those are the times I have. I have seen one or two GPs that have been spot on and of course like any profession you get bad and good. Lots of great GPs out there doing a great job but from my experiences I have little trust in diagnoses from certain doctors.

Alan Partridge - "This Country!"
 
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Many people goto their GP with very personal problems, they want someone to talk too and who is able to easily understand them... and vice versa. Its not so much a race issue, but there are GPs with a very poor ability to speak English clearly, let alone understand local words/terms and culture.

Its one thing refusing to out right see a non-white british GP. But its a completely different issue when someone feels unable to communicate as clearly or as comfortably with a GP who they find hard to understand or communicate with in the same way.
 
I've had some pretty useless doctors in the past but the one I have now is pretty good.

Worst GP I had was in scotland, no matter what symptoms you had the medication was always the same: antibiotics.

I don't think he realised you become immune to them the more you have them.

He wasn't exactly gentle either, when giving an injection it seemed like he was trying to hammer a tent peg in for the bigtop.

It's hospitals I have most problems with, I had an operation on my stomach in 2005 to remove my appendix and some of my lower bowels (was rushed in, in middle of the night) after never having a single stomach complaint in the past.

Ever since the operation I have had IBS, stomach cramps, trapped wind, near constant indigestion/hyper acidity, generally feeling tired and like crap and gained nearly 5 stone in weight.

I had 3 "specialist" appointments in the same hospital afterwards to check on my progress after the op, I explained all the problems I have had since and they showed absolutely no interest at all, they were more concerned if the scar from the op was neat and tidy.

Was told that the stomach problems I had now were probably from the previous problems I had leading upto the op even though I explained several times I had no issues beforehand...

Have also had a problem since 1993 with my lower back which gets rediagnosed to something new every time I have it checked out ranging from compressed discs, slipped discs, degenerative discs, trapped nerves oh and my favourite "cant find anything wrong".

Doesn't come as a surprise though, took them over 15 years to correctly diagnose my mothers knee problems :p
 
leaskovski said:
Was in there on friday night before revs followed by some stripper action at the sugar lounge. :D
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Shame on your face! Revs is not bad, but the sugar lounge? I would rather pay tramps to kiss than watch the dogs in there dance lol

Anyways, hit me up on msn :) PM sent in trust :)

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Azagoth said:
You want to try my GP, she talks way to quickly and every now and then she slips into Urdu. It got so bad about a year ago that I actually had one my Indian friends teach me a few phrases so I could **** with her head.
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The current GP we use also happens to be the one my uncle and his wife use, last year we had to take his wife to appointments at the GP's once a week as my uncle was at work, even though we got her there at least 20 mins before her appointment every time they never ever saw her until at least 1 1/2hr's after her appointment was due. In the mean time they called in all of the local Pakistani community who were in the waiting room waiting for their sicknotes so they could go and sign on :mad: during all these appointments they continued to fob her off that there was nothing wrong with her or sent her to so called specialists that claimed there was nothing wrong until 12 months later one of the specialists finally admitted that she was suffering from brittle bones and cancer in the bones :mad:
 
agnes said:
Point being. Indian GP's simply don't care, nor to most british ones....
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No GP or consultant for that matter really gives a monkeys any more, you will also see that their attitude towards you changes as you get older, i saw as my dad hit 50 when he got cancer after this point their attitude seemed to be that he'd had his life and they really couldn't care any more (the last time he got it they gave him zero treatment for the cancer) where as previously before he had hit 50 he would have been starting chemo within a month of being diagnosed.
 
divosuk said:
If you want to include the GP that diagnosed my mother in law (who had lung cancer) - He told her she needed a new matress as it was this that was giving her a sore shoulder, then recommended a different pillow. Then after 14 months - and 5 visits to him with various pains and losing weight / coughing continuously (and nothing mroe than painkillers) decided she needed an X-ray (only to find the cancer had now spread to her spine, and brain and Lymphnodes ) - she died 3 weeks later.

Or the same doctor that told my wife she couldn't have pethedine during childbirth as she was allergic to Aspirin (even though the midwife said that was a load of rubbish - and she gave her 2 injections no problem)

Or the same doctor that told my wife she had just taken an allergic reaction to a fish dish on holiday (she was covered in red lumps everywhere the day after returning from spain) - only for her to be admitted to hospital 3 days later with chicken pox which had spread to her lungs - and she was having severe trouble breathing)

:rolleyes:

One of the reasons I no longer visit GPs & the wife now goes Private with work & has been diagnosed correctly.
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Fool me once shame on you........
Fool me twice shame on you........
Fool me again........shame on yourself :p
 
i know what the OP is on about, i suffered from very bad nose bleeds at the age of 13 which meant i was covered in blood in the middle of the night or couldnt do much outside as they started for no reason and wouldnt stop for upto 2 hours! i went to the doctors 3 times about it and every time the doc said i would grow out of it. At the age of 16 and with a cold i had enought and went to the local A and E where they told me to go to the local Ear, eye and nose hospital about 20 miles away when i next get one (it had stopped and they said they couldnt do anything). So the next day we rushed down to the local Nose hospital to get it courtarised (spell?). The doc there was great but said he couldnt do both nostrils at the same time but it did the trick, he asked me why i hadnt done this earlier after suffering for so long and went mad when we said my doctor said i would grow out of it.

The very same doctor told me to 'not kneel down' when i went to him with a knee problem.

This next bit is funny too, i went to a different doctor a few years later complaining about not being able to breath through my nose (due to my nose bleeds?) and she game me some nose drops, i read the label at home and it said not to be taken if you suffer from nose bleeds, but i tried them as i thought she wouldnt have given them me if she thought they where bad, dropped 2 drops in my nose and got a nose bleed. lol

I dont bother going now even tho ive changed doctor, i just dont think they care about fixing the problem. All they want to do is get you out of there office with a sick note which is not what i want, i want it fixed not a day off work.
 
Heofz said:
It turns out, all this time he's had PNEUMONIA, and just had a chest x-ray which confirmed it. He's now going to be in a hospital bed for the next 4 days being treated for something that should have been diagnosed a month ago. :mad::mad::mad: People can die from pneumonia, and I shudder to think how much worse the situation would have been if my dad wasn't taken to A&E.
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That is excactly what happened to someone from our previous GP, he just said to the patient it was a cold and he should take some cough medicine ...... in the end he died.

Today it is best to find out what your GP says, do some research and if you do not trust his/her opinion ask a 2nd opinion or insist more tests.
 
Frankly there are LOTS of unqualified doctors out there, in terms of experience, knowledge, staying current and simply being able to diagnose. Its one thing to be asked in an exam whats wrong with a guy with a long list of symptoms and get it right, but its another to differentiate the difference, 20 years later, of 30 people all with a headache and no other criteria, unfortunately its a case of if a doctor see's 1000 patients a year with the flu, who have a cough, fever and headache and achey joints, the next guy that comes in with roughly those symptoms the doctors experience will lead him to believe its the flu.

This is why GP's are a terrible idea, they get stuck in the routine of the cases they see and never think outside the box, neither would you if you had 5k cases a year, 99.99% all the same, 0.01% people have serious problems with very similar presenting symptoms they get misdiagnosed, you can't blame the doctor but the stupid idea.

Its as people say, a surgeon see's a surgical problem, a dermatoligist thinks he just has a rash, a psych thinks he's faking and needs help etc, etc. People diagnose what they are USED to seeing. An oncologist see's a high white count and thinks one thing, a GP just see's a basic infection.

Doctors HAVE to be constantly rotated through many basic area's so they become used to diagnosing everything and don't get stuck in a rut. It makes them better doctors and stops them becoming lazy, makes them far more experienced and far more likely to spot serious illness's.

Its why ER doc's are so incredibly good, they see everything all the time, normally with acute symptoms which makes it easier to see aswell to be fair, but they simply deal with so many more problems they think more outside the box.


But if you get saddled with a crap doctor, switch, straight away, don't take a brush off if somethings been affecting you for more than a couple weeks, get a second opinion.


THe other issue is early symptoms of serious disease aren't always noticeable, you won't know if your potassium level is slowly creeping up, a blood test would be obvious and linked with other symptoms give a much better chance of diagnoses, but the single symptom on its own can be anything.

Realistically, every practice should have a nurse drawing blood as you wait, stick it in a machine that can test for the basics at the very least and any abnormal results, patients can be called back in.

EDIT:_ I'm not disagreeing with people either, i've been misdiagnosed with a bunch of things for many years, but I know why, I can see why and while I blame the doctors to a degree, I blame the system far more.

It has to be said that for pneumonia, you generally can only diagnose it once the lungs have started to fill up with liquid, at first it will seem like any normal infection or cold. lots of infections can cause it and you can have lots of infections that never progress into pneumonia so the doctor wasn't necessarily wrong. You can have a terrible cough that straight off and for a while doesn't fill the lungs untill days later. Again this is the problem, hundreds of various problems can present as a bad cough at first, you quite literally can't expect everyone to be diagnosed effectively straight off. Differential diagnoses, the diagnoses gets easy the more symptoms or more specific the symptoms get. With the way most GP's run with very little in the way of tests and often seeing problems as they are at their least worst/earliest theres not a huge amount that can be done for incredibly common symptoms.
 
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