Will you take the Swine Flu Jab?

No what im saying is that at the moment Swine Flu is no more deadly than normal flu (if it mutates this is a different issue but its not yet so im going on that), my body deals with normal Flu every year...

Hawker
 
eggyoke said:
No I like to pass injecting substances into my body when I can. I'd rather contract swine flu normally, fight through it, then enjoy the benefits of a stronger immune system ;)
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How would catching it and suffering through it make your immune system any stronger than just having the vaccine?
 
Fenris said:
You can't be immune to something you have never had or had a vaccination against, would you go to Africa and when someone offers you a Maleria tablet say "no thanks, my immune system's awesome".
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He didn't say he'd be immune, he said his immune SYSTEM will deal with it. Which is how all of us recover from colds and flu.
 
dirtydog said:
What is your theory?
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I think world governments are preparing for millions of deaths worldwide. At the current mortality rate (0.5%), 150,000 people will die in this country alone - that's if half the population get swine flu. I expect that mortality rate to climb as we move into winter and a stronger virus emerges from the southern hemisphere, where it is normal winter flu season at the moment.

It's only ever been a matter of time before mother nature culls the human population. I just hope I'm not one of the ones culled.

Edit: Food for thought - OcUK has 9300 active members, if half of them contract swine flu then at current mortality rates, 23 of them will die.
 
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i'll be taking it and i will ensure my kids and wife take it. I've never had flu before and have a heart condition now, infact no-one in my family has had what you call proper flu, coughs and colds yes but i expect a lot of people "mostly men, lol" with a common cold would say its the flu when it isn't.
 
I don't see why anyone would WANT to get Flu, just get the jab, it will be payed for by the NHS and stop you (hopefully) getting ill.

Saying you "deal with it" is stupid realy, unless you somehow think that makes you "hard"...And just because you've had flu before doesn't mean you can shrug off any flu.
 
bam0 said:
How would catching it and suffering through it make your immune system any stronger than just having the vaccine?
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It wouldnt, but why would I cause trouble to an already stretched NHS service for no good reason.

Scorza where did you get 0.5% from, at best from the most recent gloomy numbers in the UK its 0.15% since last week 10000 were affected and at most 15 died from it, but thats pretty questionable since most of them were really ill anyway.

Hawker
 
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hawker1986 said:
It wouldnt, but why would I cause trouble to an already stretched NHS service for no good reason.
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I doubt very much whether you choosing to take the vaccine or not will have any effect on the provision of core NHS services, and a good reason to have it is that this virus is killing people, why not take a simple opportunity to protect yourself?
 
bam0 said:
I doubt very much whether you choosing to take the vaccine or not will have any effect on the provision of core NHS services, and a good reason to have it is that this virus is killing people, why not take a simple opportunity to protect yourself?
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For myself, I don't know whether I can trust what I'm being injected with. I would be having it on blind faith, I have no idea what's in it or what the side effects might be.
 
dirtydog said:
For myself, I don't know whether I can trust what I'm being injected with. I would be having it on blind faith, I have no idea what's in it or what the side effects might be.
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Then you better become a scientist pretty damn quick.

A good amount of our lives are built on faith in other people, we take our cars to the garrage, can we trust them not to screw up so when we hit 60 on the motorway our brakes stop working? Can we trust the postman not to steal our mail?

If we can't trust the NHS to provide health care, who can we trust?

/tinfoil hat


Of course this is a rather more pressing issue, it being our own bodies and a virus that is capable of killing people, but I imagine it will go through testing and people with letters after their name and pocket protectors will use long words and make sure it won't kill you.
 
AJUK said:
No!

I will make a prediction, in the near future they will announce that the virus has mutated and now it is far more dangerous than first thought. So dangerous that it is essential that 'key' personnel are vaccinated and as the disease spreads they will want to roll it out over the entire population. Why else would they keep reminding us that they are in the process of preparing enough vaccine for the whole population.

If you don't believe me, remember these words as you are shepherded into line for your jab by a policeman or soldier. I hope I am wrong.
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bit contradictory isn't it?


and how soon is soon care to put a date on it?
 
dirtydog said:
For myself, I don't know whether I can trust what I'm being injected with. I would be having it on blind faith, I have no idea what's in it or what the side effects might be.
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I understand that position better, but I'm curious. Do you suspect that there would maliciously be something untoward about the vaccine, or just unforeseen side effects, as a result of the speed it was developed or some other factor?
 
Fenris said:
Then you better become a scientist pretty damn quick.

A good amount of our lives are built on faith in other people, we take our cars to the garrage, can we trust them not to screw up so when we hit 60 on the motorway our brakes stop working? Can we trust the postman not to steal our mail?

If we can't trust the NHS to provide health care, who can we trust?

/tinfoil hat
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I put faith and trust in strangers when I have no choice but to do it, like in the examples you give. Deciding whether to voluntarily have the flu jab isn't quite so cut and dried - I might not get the flu even if I don't have the jab. I might get the flu even if I *do* have the jab. It isn't a simple choice.
 
bam0 said:
I understand that position better, but I'm curious. Do you suspect that there would maliciously be something untoward about the vaccine, or just unforeseen side effects, as a result of the speed it was developed or some other factor?
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Could be either.
 
scorza said:
It's only ever been a matter of time before mother nature culls the human population. I just hope I'm not one of the ones culled.
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mother nature does not think more act with intent.


Edit: Food for thought - OcUK has 9300 active members, if half of them contract swine flu then at current mortality rates, 23 of them will die.
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How about a £5 bet that not one ocuker dies of swine flu?
 
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