Windows 7 pre-order 32 or 64bit?

monkeyspank said:
Why is it a waste of time?
The things I want to do with my PC seem to work much better on 32 bit.
I've never noticed the missing half gig of RAM.
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because it does do it much better and your kidding yourself if you think that. It's missing features and you are wasting ram you have paid for.
 
monkeyspank said:
Why is it a waste of time?
The things I want to do with my PC seem to work much better on 32 bit.
I've never noticed the missing half gig of RAM.
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The operative word there is 'seem'.

No application I have used runs better on a 32 bit OS. You know what? 64bit OSs can run 32bit apps! OMGZ! The technology is superior, not inferior.
 
AcidHell2 said:
what drivers can't you get. Pretty much all laptops are made with generic parts. So even if they don't have 64bit drivers on The XPS website. The are easily available and as such should still go 64bit
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There's a lot of specific drivers for the touch-sensitive buttons and such, as well as the applications that give OSD for volume etc. I'm just hoping they'll work with Windows 7 32-bit.

It's only got 2GB of RAM anyway so 64-bit isn't going to be any better. If anything it'll use more RAM so it's not worth it.
 
OK one example. Installing or updating itunes took ages on my 64 bit install. Easily over 5 minutes as it went through all it's tasks. On 32 bit it installed promptly.

Another example. Playing mkv files in media center. One quick install required for 32 bit. 64 bit requires workarounds and hacks and uses the outdated directshow platform instead of Media Foundation which just works on 32 bit.

Another. Drivers. If I want to install a driver then I want to. I don't like being told what I can't do. If it makes things unstable then thats my problem.
 
benefits of 64 bit?
Stability... never had any stability problems on 32 bit win7
RAM address limit... I've never noticed the difference between 3.5 or 4GB ram.
security.. No security problems on my 32 bit OSs for probably over 5 years.

So why am I trolling, not making the smart choice, and wasting my time.
You tell me
 
why would you notice security.

Your paying from ram you aren't using.

It's a waste of time getting 32bit without a proper reason. Both come on w7 cd any way.
Get forward with the times. More and more software is coming out in 64bit. Things as simple as zip software is 64bit and has a significant speed increase.
 
So, apart from the itunes thing that someone else hasn't noticed, but I had... And the other 0.5GB RAM that I've never needed in either 32 or 64 bit, you can't answer my questions.
And I'm trolling?

I've given you a few reasons why I want to use 32 bit, but you seem to be ignoring them. So I'm not wasting my time, other than typing out my reasons apparently.

Zip software? I spend, what, about 15 seconds once or twice a week compressing or decompressing files. Sorry, that isn't selling it to me, you will have to try harder. And repeating that 'it's newer' isn't going to work.
 
that's fine, don't use it. But don't try telling other people it's worse or not needed.

And yes those are all valid points why you should be using 64bit.

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I've given reasons why I prefer 32 bit. You haven't given me any valid reasons for 64 bit apart from shaving 4 seconds off my weekly file compression time, and the fact that it's newer. Even though I have pointed out that 64 bit OS actually uses an older method for one of my main uses of the PC (mkv files) than the 32 bit variant.
 
I've given more reasons than that.As for MKV no Idea as I don' use MVK hence I haven't commented on that. However plenty of people are running MKV fine and I expect it doesn't require hacks. Many people have 1GB cards or even sli set ups. As said do you never use page file? do you not want the best security. As I said there is many software in 64bit now. Including games, zip, photo editing and many more. Which all have a speed increase.
 
monkeyspank said:
I've given reasons why I prefer 32 bit. You haven't given me any valid reasons for 64 bit apart from shaving 4 seconds off my weekly file compression time, and the fact that it's newer. Even though I have pointed out that 64 bit OS actually uses an older method for one of my main uses of the PC (mkv files) than the 32 bit variant.
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Is that really the fault of the 64-bit OS? That particular piece of software needs to be brought inline with current standards. 64-bit is now the next step in OS technology. All the big OS brands are stepping up to it because it gives far greater expandability for hardware and software. I'm on 64-bit and I can already max my 4GB RAM up with software that is available right now, so in the next few years it'll be even easier to do that. Add to that the fact that more and more graphics cards are seeing 1GB RAM as the norm, a 32-bit OS loses even more system memory and the capability to operate that hardware correctly.

I have all the programs that you mentioned in your post, and I have none of the problems that you mention. I play MKV files all the time, I've never had to hack anything in. I installed Media Player Classic, put on the old Vista codec pack and I was sorted. As for iTunes, well, never had issues with it either. I find it slow to respond in both 32-bit and 64-bit at times, but it is never a problem for me.

You can sit there all day and go "yeah but it doesn't seem to affect me at the moment so blah blah". That doesn't mean that it isn't logical for people to start preparing to move to it, or even moving to it. The majority of 64-bit users won't experience any of the issues that you're posting up, because quite honestly, they're not major issues and they barely ever happen. If you're happy to stay with 32-bit, then stay with it, but don't sit there and say that 64-bit is a poor choice and prevent others from getting the benefits.
 
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Acidhell, You've given reasons for what exactly? Not trying to be confrontational, but saying 'those are all' and 'for that' are a bit vague.

mkv in 64 bit media center uses directshow. 32 bit uses the newer media foundation. No codecs required for 32 bit, they are already there. So yeah, 64 bit requires adding things to the OS whereas 32 bit uses what's inbuilt.

Many people may have 1GB or even SLI setups. I haven't. I've only ever commented on my usage in this thread. I haven't tried to tell anyone else what they should be using.

I've said that I haven't had any security issues for a long time, so why would I want more than what I have?

I rarely game on my PC so not relevant. Zip, irrelevant. photo editing - the manual things like choosing brushes and stuff is much more time consuming than the actual processing or opening files, and I don't do much so it's not really relevant. Opening a 10mp photo and doing some retouching will not realistically happen any faster in a 64bit environment.

I'm not telling anyone what they should be doing, I'm offering my experience and point of view. I get accused of trolling, not doing the right thing, when all I'm doing is offering up my view.
 
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