For any lorry drivers (e.g. R420LA6X2/4MNA)

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Yesterday night, I had to collect someone from Gatwick Airport late at night. This involved driving on the M25 which currently seems to be subject to a lot of roadworks and different speed limits at different points; it appears that this is even more so late at night and early in the morning.

Some of you may be aware that there were thunder, lightning, torrential downpours and strong winds yesterday which resulted on the M25 in a fair bit of standing water and spray.

Because I was running late, I was probably driving faster than the majority of the traffic - whilst adhering to the speed limits - whenever I could work out what they actually were!

However, what I did notice was that I was frequently overtaken by large lorries, often from household names such as Tesco which often were driving well above the (temporary) speed limit and throwing spray everywhere.


What I wondered was why they were doing this?

Is it the case that lorries are "incentivised" to stick to a fairly strict schedule that doesn't make allowances for temporary speed limits, roadworks or other hold-ups?
 
Well, that, and standing water/spray is less likely to cause the lorry driver issues (causing the lorry traction issues itself is of course still likely, but for the driver's actual vision, less than a low car).
 
I find the same on the M6/m1, more than likley a Lorry driver will be up my proverbial, even when im doing 52-53mph in a 50 zone, its like they really dont want to slow down from the max of 56 at all.

Can be quite annoying, esp when they pull into the outside lane. It tends to be the smaller hauliers and the 7.5 tonners IME.
 
Wagons will be doing 51-52 according to thier (calibrated) speedo's on those SPEC's areas, in a car when it's not calibrated it will over read by as much as 10%.
 
Is it the case that lorries are "incentivised" to stick to a fairly strict schedule that doesn't make allowances for temporary speed limits, roadworks or other hold-ups?

Hardly "incentivised" tbh, more poor planning and impossible delivery schedules. An example would be me last night, Bridgewater to Stoke on Trent, my journey time on my "in cab computer"? - 2 hours!

Wagons will be doing 51-52 according to thier (calibrated) speedo's on those SPEC's areas, in a car when it's not calibrated it will over read by as much as 10%.

This. :)
 
Wagons will be doing 51-52 according to thier (calibrated) speedo's on those SPEC's areas, in a car when it's not calibrated it will over read by as much as 10%.

this

you will have been doing about 47mph when your speedo said exactly 50mph.

he will have been doing 52 ish on his calibrated speedo.
 
Normally wagons are pretty good on our roads, but it does seem in speed restricted areas they seem to get especially impatient, this is why there seems to be plenty of accidents on the M1 and M6 roadwork stretches involving lorries.Fair enough speedo's maybe out, but they should really go with the flow, but im guessing schedules dont really allow that nowadays.
 
I dont think you would have got overtaken by a Tesco lorry, they are restricted to an even more ludicrous speed that other lorries if i remember rightly, something like 52mph and 35 mph on a dual carriage way and A road respectively.
 
I dont think you would have got overtaken by a Tesco lorry, they are restricted to an even more ludicrous speed that other lorries if i remember rightly, something like 52mph and 35 mph on a dual carriage way and A road respectively.

What did you think about Petar Cvetkovic then dude?

:eek:
 
What did you think about Petar Cvetkovic then dude?

:eek:

Why whats happened to him?
He's not carked it has he?

One of the business post drivers who delivers Newark just keeled over and died on monday, at a primary school of all places.
 
let me guess they were playing that i can go 2mph faster than then previous big rig and im gonna hold up the whole middle lane while I take 30miles to overtake
 
Technically, or not so technically... Two cars, one dual carriageway, side by side travelling at about 54 mph. Holding up a wagon. Revenge!

Would need a little co-ordination mind you but what a thought. :D
 
Technically, or not so technically... Two cars, one dual carriageway, side by side travelling at about 54 mph. Holding up a wagon. Revenge!

Would need a little co-ordination mind you but what a thought. :D

Would you be brave enough to deliberately annoy an angry lorry driver that may be running late who is also in control of something much much bigger and heavier than you?
I regularly talk to my friend while he's driving to Germany and back every week, and 9 times out of 10 it's the car drivers that he's shouting at to do the NSL or just their driving in general.
 
Would you be brave enough to deliberately annoy an angry lorry driver that may be running late who is also in control of something much much bigger and heavier than you?
I regularly talk to my friend while he's driving to Germany and back every week, and 9 times out of 10 it's the car drivers that he's shouting at to do the NSL or just their driving in general.

Reality says it's a far cry.
 
Would you be brave enough to deliberately annoy an angry lorry driver that may be running late who is also in control of something much much bigger and heavier than you?
I regularly talk to my friend while he's driving to Germany and back every week, and 9 times out of 10 it's the car drivers that he's shouting at to do the NSL or just their driving in general.

I agree with you, in most cases i find lorry drivers have to pul into the middle lane, because some complete muppet in a car who is either trying save 3mpg by doing 50 or is **** scared of the motorway or plainly cant see as they are on their last legs.

That said there are a few **** lorry drivers, but the **** proportion is higher in the car driver subset.
 
Is it the case that lorries are "incentivised" to stick to a fairly strict schedule that doesn't make allowances for temporary speed limits, roadworks or other hold-ups?
 
Is it the case that lorries are "incentivised" to stick to a fairly strict schedule that doesn't make allowances for temporary speed limits, roadworks or other hold-ups?

Incentivised or not - and I assume you mean bonuses, overtime, salary stuff - that still counts as potential prosecution and points if you're breaking the law.

I don't think being in an Arctic/Lorry/Transit makes you immune from limits, roadworks and other hold ups.
 
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