The Swine Flu Thread - All Swine Flu Rubbish In Here

Ucof said:
A (hot) girl who sits behind me at work is now off ill with confirmed swine flu.
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who confirmed it ? theyre not even bothering to test people for it round here. just treating it like normal flu and telling peopel to stay at home and rest.

obviously it probably different in different areas but just wondering
 
Big.Wayne said:
I forgot to mention something in my previous post about a strange side effect from my recent Flu Like condition and that was it didn't effect my appetite at all......
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Funny you say that.

The wife had no loss of appetite at all and she was actually tested and confirmed to have swine flu. She was actually craving chocolate and the girl time of the month is not due for weeks yet. :confused:
 
I'm now off with suspected swine flu, so is my colleague. Another colleague has a wife with it, and another has a sister and mother with the same thing. We've all been prescribed Tamiflu but nobody has been tested.

Just feels like a bad cold or chest infection with added extreme tiredness.
 
Wiggins said:
Funny you say that.

The wife had no loss of appetite at all and she was actually tested and confirmed to have swine flu. She was actually craving chocolate and the girl time of the month is not due for weeks yet. :confused:
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My girlfriend had it (well, suspected case), and she wasn't particularly off her food either, except for the couple of days where she had really high fever.
 
Remember that as with all flu's, you don't have to get ridiculously sick, nor do you have to be off your food. They've said they've had confirmed cases of people simply with a high temp(normally just over 100F = fever) and no/one other symptom. Flu isn't every symptom under the book otherwise its the cold, it can be anything, flu will be incredibly mild in some and very very hardcore in others. Sometimes it will overrun you very very quickly making it hard and slow to fight off, other times you system will adapt very quickly and start attacking it before it spreads everywhere. Remember that a lot of the symptoms are actually caused by your reaction to it, a lot of them caused by excessively high temps, if you can control you temp you might not feel that bad, conversely, you might kill it quicker with a higher temp. Its an unknown, which is whats such a pain with these kinds of things.

Maybe those who've had uber bad flu before have a headstart in recognising it, as fairly few normal healthy people have had flu's often or even at all before.

Would be nice if there was some kinda home testing kit that will check for the virus or antibodies in the blood so people can know either way.
 
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Seems to be the most people with the infection are in London which I guess is because there is a greater concentration of people and an International Airport shuttling thousands of tourists in and out!

Speaking of airports the Daily Express is reporting that people with Swine-Flu may not be allowed to leave the country! that could be a serious setback to many thousands of families thinking of jetting off on their summer holidays! :(

I have no idea of cold and flu statistics but I am reading that soon 350 people a day could die from this? (only 29 confirm deaths so far) . . . . and up to 65,000 people could die after contracting swine flu this winter! :confused:

This thing about it being a threat mainly to people with underlying health condition wasn't totally clear to me but I'm getting the impression that basically means anyone who has asthma, diabetes, epilepsy, heart problems etc. If you are reasonably fit and healthy you just get ill for 5 days but anyone else has a greater chance of developing complications?

The latest statistics show approx 55,000 people have been infected the past week and although just 29 deaths have been confirmed there are approx 652 being treated in hospital of which 53 are said to be in a critical condition
 
My boss is off with it. I expect I will get it. MY daughter goes to school, I travel on the tube and I work in a building with 15,000 other people. Not bothered though, it's just flu.
 
Big.Wayne said:
I have no idea of cold and flu statistics but I am reading that soon 350 people a day could die from this? (only 29 confirm deaths so far) . . . . and up to 65,000 people could die after contracting swine flu this winter! :confused:

This thing about it being a threat mainly to people with underlying health condition wasn't totally clear to me but I'm getting the impression that basically means anyone who has asthma, diabetes, epilepsy, heart problems etc. If you are reasonably fit and healthy you just get ill for 5 days but anyone else has a greater chance of developing complications?
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Swine flu seems to be particularly hard on the lungs, which means mostly the pre-existing conditions that can effect it are lung problems, but not everyone with pre-existing conditions is dying from it, just that none, or very few people without other problems are dying with it.

As for the numbers, seasonal flu tends to kill upwards of 10k people every winter already, running off memory here but I think its closer to 20k most years and the last big year was 2000 when about 40k people died from seasonal flu. Mostly old people of which many if not most have pre-existing conditions.

350 people dying a day, all winter(90 days lets call it) is 31.5k people, in theory it sounds like a lot 350 a day, its not. People are predicting between 19k and 60k deaths from swine flu this winter, out of a prediction of between 20 and 30million people infected, so these predictions, at worst of 60k in 20million is 0.3% mortality rate, which is, nothing, remember at any given time probably a good few percent of people in the UK are sick/in hospitals or getting treatment for various things, mostly old people and only a few of those people are going to die from Swine flu.

Put it this way, a lot of people die, specifically old people, in winter because their time has come, be it normal flu, swine flu, falling down the stairs and breaking their hip, or just passing away in their sleep.

Even the very worst predictions only have mostly already sick people dying of swine flu.

Those predictions are NOT taking into account a working vaccine being administered to the sicker people first, which could (if effective) bring that tiny percentage down even further.

Its completely nothing to be worried about unless you are in bad health, even then its not like you will die, the chance of ill people dying from it is still miniscule.
 
Thanks for the explanation drunkenmaster.

So I admit I am unaware of all these statistics but what I am wondering is at which point does this Flu statistically become something to worry about?
 
ITs just one of those things, its very hard to move from the hundreds mark to comparitive think about those numbers in relation to 10's of mil's. Simply because we're not used to it, on a daily basis we spend £1-50 on things but £100's starts to feel expensive and thousands seem very very big to us, so when you see 60k it seems immense because in our daily lives that number is big. But in relation to 20mil its nothing.

Realistically Swine flu will only get to a worrying point statistically if it started to kill a significantly higher percentage of those infected than it is now, which its very very unlikely to do. You should be worried now IF you're already ill with lung problems, in that situation I'd be very careful of any sickness and any early signs I'd jump on immediately, just in case. But really if everyone eats a little better, drinks less, doesn't put their body on the line then your chances of problems are so low as to not even worry about.

Even if it got slightly more lethal we'd still be wanting to see the percentage of those dying higher than the percentage of people infected who are very ill in the first place. IE if 10% of all people infected are seriously ill to start with, you wouldn't be worried until it started killing 12% of all people infected.
 
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