1 in 3 UK children live in poverty?

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Really?

I saw this advertised on a First bus this morning. Does 'poverty' now mean 'Living in a crappy council house, parents on many benefits, a huge tv with sky and living off fish fingers, chicken nuggets and chips'
 
Really?

I saw this advertised on a First bus this morning. Does 'poverty' now mean 'Living in a crappy council house, parents on many benefits, a huge tv with sky and living off fish fingers, chicken nuggets and chips'

More or less. They problem have some definition such as the family annual income is in the bottom quartile or bottom 10% of the population mean. Thereby, council house living chavs with payouts counts as poverty.

On a global level, poverty has some much leaner definitions.
 
Why does everyone think that if you live in a council house you must be a chav?

I was going to edit my post with that statement... just shows that a lot of people on here are highly judgemental - quite a nasty trait to be honest.

I personally don't live in a council house, but not everyone that does is a scrounging peice of ****. There are a lot of hard working manual jobs that pay very little (compared to most of your office jobs where you sit on your arse all day).
 
Why does everyone think that if you live in a council house you must be a chav?

I was brought up on an excellent cambridge council estate in the late 70's early 80's and we wanted for nothing. It was a fantastic close community and people had much more disposable income than the current generation spending 1000 a month on a mortgage and 400 on council tax and utilities.

Everyone knew each other and kept and eye out for each others kids and also kept them in check. People stayed in the same place for longer.

Anywhere I've lived since large portions of council estates where sold off I have barely known the names of people living around me and it's certainly less social.

If I could have qualified for a council house like the communities in the 70's and 80's I'd have much rather done that than pour money into a house I will never see the returns from anyway.
 
I was going to edit my post with that statement... just shows that a lot of people on here are highly judgemental - quite a nasty trait to be honest.

I personally don't live in a council house, but not everyone that does is a scrounging peice of ****. There are a lot of hard working manual jobs that pay very little (compared to most of your office jobs where you sit on your arse all day).

Quite.

The equating of poor with chav is a deeply unpleasant trend.
 
I was brought up on an excellent cambridge council estate in the late 70's early 80's and we wanted for nothing. It was a fantastic close community and people had much more disposable income than the current generation spending 1000 a month on a mortgage and 400 on council tax and utilities.

Everyone knew each other and kept and eye out for each others kids and also kept them in check. People stayed in the same place for longer.

Anywhere I've lived since large portions of council estates where sold off I have barely known the names of people living around me and it's certainly less social.

If I could have qualified for a council house like the communities in the 70's and 80's I'd have much rather done that than pour money into a house I will never see the returns from anyway.

You right about that, growing up myself in rural wiltshire, it wasnt a council estate but still everyone knew everyone, we used to hang around with neigbours, go over for bbq's, they would come to ours etc, today living here for 5 years and I dont even know the name of my next door neigbour, people just arent as friendly anymore it would seem.

As for above, while a fair few people living on council estates are hard working people, a majority aren't, and ive often found their kids to be quite undisciplined and unruly.
 
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As said it is relative poverty. Relative Poverty in this country is usually generally accepted to be a household with an income of less than 50% of the national average.

Once you look at it like that you will see that it is impossible to irradicate "poverty" in this country as there will always be a certain percent of the population where the household income is less than 50% of the national average unless we all earn the same money which isn't going to happen.

On the above definition I can beleive that 1 in 3 children live in poverty in this country. The point is that fact is meaningless.

Say the nation average income jumped to £50k overnight. There would still be 1 in 3 in poverty even in households with an income of £25k per annum.

On another note it always makes me laugh when well meaning organisations redefine "poverty" especially essentials. Apparantly, on a non monetary basis, a child is in poverty now if he doesn't have a tv.
 
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There're a few benchmarks in the UK IIRC, one is if you bring in less than 60% of the national average income (Not hard, given the average is 24k (LOL!) and minimum wage brings you 11k...) and one where you expend more than a certain percentage of you income on food and fuel alone.
 
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