New Hardware Runs Worse

HAz said:
doubt its the psu tbh, looking at your spec i wouldnt expect crysis to run well at all. You say it was smooth before the upgrade? what in low settings maybe
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Yeah it was smooth, no stuttering but bad graphics. Now it's quite stuttery on optimal :o
 
Psu does looka bit low on the old amps,

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Sinque said:
Would you be able to spec one for me please mate? I don't have a clue what i'm looking for :p Ideally £50ish please!
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Sure thing mate.

This:

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CP-246-AM

This:

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-188-GI&groupid=701&catid=5&subcat=1483

and This:

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-031-OC

That PSU is modular making cabling easy :P

Go on treat yourself will be a nice little bundle and will happily run crysis :D
 
I don't think it is your PSU mate, when I first bought my old 8800GTX I fitted it to my old rig that had a crapola 450w PSU, and when I tried to run things like Crysis, the game would startup fine, but about 1 minute into playing and it would shut down completely... there was no stuttering like you mention...

What you can do is take your other PSU and use it solely for powering your graphics card, that will tell you whether or not if you are underpowered... You will need to short the main 24/20pin ATX connector on the PSU before it will work though, I can remember which points it is on the 24Pin connector it is that you need to short, though someone here will know for sure...

What I did was just took an old PC and had it sitting next to my main rig and ran the cables from the old one and hooked them up to my graphics card, it worked fine until I got a new PSU!!!

Though I personally suspect the RAM as being the problem here tbh... Try removing the new stick of RAM that you fitted, also double check that the graphics card is properly seated...

One last thing, see the 6 pin to 2 x molex adapter you have fitted to your graphics card, do you have a molex connector fitted to both sockets, or just one of them??
 
Sinque said:
But then i'd need another motherboard and i'm totally broke, i'm going to have to exhaust all other options before I can start forking money out - will check members market now even :)
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Surely if your board has a AMD 64 3200 in it then it should take an X2 CPU?

Or is it a Socket 939 chip you've got? If so, MM or the bay for a X2 939 CPU is still my recommendation. (I can see a X2 3800 on the bay for £50, without looking around)

Check the spec in my sig - thats running off a 350W PSU, and draws 100 Watts on idle, 185 Watts gaming and 220 Watts with CPU and GPU maxed 100% during benchmarking. (Tested as power draw from wall using power meter)
 
Scougar said:
Before you spend out are you able to borrow a mates psu to try out?
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Yeah i'm going to try this first.

DavyBoy said:
I don't think it is your PSU mate, when I first bought my old 8800GTX I fitted it to my old rig that had a crapola 450w PSU, and when I tried to run things like Crysis, the game would startup fine, but about 1 minute into playing and it would shut down completely... there was no stuttering like you mention...

What you can do is take your other PSU and use it solely for powering your graphics card, that will tell you whether or not if you are underpowered... You will need to short the main 24/20pin ATX connector on the PSU before it will work though, I can remember which points it is on the 24Pin connector it is that you need to short, though someone here will know for sure...

What I did was just took an old PC and had it sitting next to my main rig and ran the cables from the old one and hooked them up to my graphics card, it worked fine until I got a new PSU!!!

Though I personally suspect the RAM as being the problem here tbh... Try removing the new stick of RAM that you fitted, also double check that the graphics card is properly seated...

One last thing, see the 6 pin to 2 x molex adapter you have fitted to your graphics card, do you have a molex connector fitted to both sockets, or just one of them??
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I have removed the new stick and it is the same, if not worse :(

Both the molex connectors are fitted into the graphics, not just one.

matt_fsr said:
Surely if your board has a AMD 64 3200 in it then it should take an X2 CPU?

Or is it a Socket 939 chip you've got? If so, MM or the bay for a X2 939 CPU is still my recommendation. (I can see a X2 3800 on the bay for £50, without looking around)

Check the spec in my sig - thats running off a 350W PSU, and draws 100 Watts on idle, 185 Watts gaming and 220 Watts with CPU and GPU maxed 100% during benchmarking. (Tested as power draw from wall using power meter)
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It's a socket 754, very old :p
 
Well I have no idea what has happened now. The PC turns on but the monitor, keyboard nor mouse will work.
 
Any luck fixing it Sinque? How'd the other PSU test go or havent you been able to borrow one?

With it being Socket754 then its too old to upgrade, but you might get a few £ for the old parts on the bay, especially if you offer to ship internationally - theres always someone in more desparate need of 1 part than yourself (exclude shipping to Nigeria!)

Buy one of these:
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-195-GI&groupid=701&catid=5&subcat=1484

and this if you're short on cash and clock it:
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CP-234-AM&groupid=701&catid=6&subcat=803

Total cost = £86. Best I can suggest as far as I can see.
 
matt_fsr said:
I'd say your problem is definitely CPU power, or rather, horrendous lack of it.

Crysis is very demanding with physics etc, and plenty benchmarks show higher frame rates from the same card when you give it more CPU power.

Treat yourself ;)

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CP-246-AM&groupid=701&catid=6&subcat=803

I reckon that should solve your problem, and get you up to a much more playable resolution. If I'm wrong, send it back as unwanted item within 7 days under distance selling act.
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The tell tell sign for this is a really low minimum frame rate, ie jerky as hell! It was similar to when the G80 came out, and AMD X2 with a 8800GTX was equivalent to an C2D with a 7900GTX, because it couldn't fully drive the GPU. You really need to get a dualcore to get the most out of your graphics card.
 
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PSU should be fine.. I have a c2d, 8800GT, 4gb RAM 2 HDD workshop PC running off a 400w and the total draw rarely exceeds 230w.

My guess is that CPU is restricting the bandwidth to the system.
 
matt_fsr said:
Any luck fixing it Sinque? How'd the other PSU test go or havent you been able to borrow one?

With it being Socket754 then its too old to upgrade, but you might get a few £ for the old parts on the bay, especially if you offer to ship internationally - theres always someone in more desparate need of 1 part than yourself (exclude shipping to Nigeria!)

Buy one of these:
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-195-GI&groupid=701&catid=5&subcat=1484

and this if you're short on cash and clock it:
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CP-234-AM&groupid=701&catid=6&subcat=803

Total cost = £86. Best I can suggest as far as I can see.
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Nope, in the process of trying to fix it I snapped some pins off the bottom of the CPU. This forces me to buy new stuff :o Will just get a new CPU, Mobo and RAM for about £150 second hand hopefully.

Bad times.
 
How about this, £180 for brand new stuff. It'll make full use of your GPU, and it'll easily overclock to 3.6GHz on that cooler which is plenty :D

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I already have a Scythe Ninja Plus cooler, would it be possible to just buy a new bracket for the bottom of it?
 
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