Internet censorship in the US? AT&T blocks 4chan

Fenris · 27 Jul 2009 at 13:52

KNiVES said:
Oh come off it. You're being a proper drama queen now. The worst case examples are moderated and deleted pretty sharply. I'd like to hear some examples of 'inhuman' entries.

I try to avoid it as much as I can, if you particularly want to browse that **** hole, by all means go for it.

Strife212 · 27 Jul 2009 at 13:53

Fenris said:
as inhuman as you can be without comitting a crime.

I dunno about that. Seen a fair bit of child porn on there...

KNiVES said:
I'd like to hear some examples of 'inhuman' entries.

See above.

Although it is against the rules and gets deleted when its seen so to be fair it's not really their fault.

Makunouchi · 27 Jul 2009 at 13:54

The problem is Fenris, what 4chan represents has been around forever. In film, literature etc - you will find acts far more depraved than 90% of the posts in /b/ by going into WHSmiths and picking up a best seller. The reason you're getting so incensed over it is because the internet has allowed it to become much more concentrated and visible. But it has always been there.

Also: lets not start giving examples shall we? It would be the quickest way to get this thread locked, and at the moment it's a pretty reasonable debate.

Edit: and it's not like 4chan doesn't have rules or moderators, but the place is so massive and has so much traffic things slip through the net.

Lysander · 27 Jul 2009 at 13:57

Fenris said:
I honesltly couldn't give a toss, 4chan, or more specifical /b/ is a disgusting and donwright pathetic place full of horrible people, I have no sypathy and will accept no justification, it simply should not be alowed to exist.

I wouldn't say /b/ was full of horrible people, I'd just say it was full of pathetic people who thought they were cool for

a] Looking at gore and pretending to be unaffected
b] Looking at animal cruelty and pretending to be unaffected
c] Looking at 'young people' and pretending to be unaffected
d] Watching several samefags conducting a raid/DDoS and thinking they're cool for being part of it when they're just mashing F5

/b/ can be clever and it can be very, very funny, but most of the time it's idiotic and there are far better boards on 4chan to frequent. The only board which is worse than /b/ is /mu/.

shauncr91 · 27 Jul 2009 at 13:59

Strife212 said:
I dunno about that. Seen a fair bit of child porn on there...

See above.

Although it is against the rules and gets deleted when its seen so to be fair it's not really their fault.

All of which is deleted and the posters are banned as soon as a mod sees it. Can't get fairer than that can you ?

Dj_Jestar · 27 Jul 2009 at 14:09

Lysander said:
I wouldn't say /b/ was full of horrible people, I'd just say it was full of pathetic people who thought they were cool for

a] Looking at gore and pretending to be unaffected
b] Looking at animal cruelty and pretending to be unaffected
c] Looking at 'young people' and pretending to be unaffected
d] Watching several samefags conducting a raid/DDoS and thinking they're cool for being part of it when they're just mashing F5

/b/ can be clever and it can be very, very funny, but most of the time it's idiotic and there are far better boards on 4chan to frequent. The only board which is worse than /b/ is /mu/.

Or, quite possibly, all of the above without the "pretending"...

drizzy · 27 Jul 2009 at 14:12

It sort of reminds me of IRC with pictures in terms of culture... seen it all before and grown up.

Le_Petit_Lapin · 27 Jul 2009 at 14:13

Have you seen what 4chan is doing in retaliation?

They're Digg'ing and Twittering that the AT&T CEO has died.

Caged · 27 Jul 2009 at 14:14

Say what you like about /b/ and 4chan but I wouldn't like to use an internet where sites like it weren't allowed to exist. It's not the job of carriers to decide what is offensive and what isn't.

pumaz · 27 Jul 2009 at 14:16

Once did a tour of the chans just to see what the fuss was about......

Stay away from the chans it's not healthy!

Jono8 · 27 Jul 2009 at 14:26

Makunouchi said:
The problem is Fenris, what 4chan represents has been around forever. In film, literature etc - you will find acts far more depraved than 90% of the posts in /b/ by going into WHSmiths and picking up a best seller. The reason you're getting so incensed over it is because the internet has allowed it to become much more concentrated and visible. But it has always been there.

Also: lets not start giving examples shall we? It would be the quickest way to get this thread locked, and at the moment it's a pretty reasonable debate.

Edit: and it's not like 4chan doesn't have rules or moderators, but the place is so massive and has so much traffic things slip through the net.

rubbish. i didn't know whsmiths had a child pornography section :rolleyes:

Mr_White · 27 Jul 2009 at 14:29

Jono8 said:
rubbish. i didn't know whsmiths had a child pornography section

Someone comes and posts child porn here and the mods deal with them, is it now a child pornography site?

No, just some **** trolling.

Jono8 · 27 Jul 2009 at 14:32

that wasnt my point.

my point is that you think you will see and read worse stuff in whsmiths.

Makunouchi · 27 Jul 2009 at 14:32

Jono8 said:
rubbish. i didn't know whsmiths had a child pornography section

No, but it has books describing and depicting anything from murder, rape, war, incest, cannibalism, the list goes on. Maybe we should just go back to burning books and witches, at least you knew where you stood with a lynching

Pixel · 27 Jul 2009 at 14:33

Le_Petit_Lapin said:
Have you seen what 4chan is doing in retaliation?

They're Digg'ing and Twittering that the AT&T CEO has died.

I remember when they did this to Apple by claiming Steve Jobs died of a heart attack, Apple's stock actually fell.

It's a felony to do this though, so someone's going to get in serious trouble I reckon.

Jono8 · 27 Jul 2009 at 14:34

Makunouchi said:
No, but it has books describing and depicting anything from murder, rape, war, incest, cannibalism, the list goes on. Maybe we should just go back to burning books and witches, at least you knew where you stood with a lynching

lol

but seriously if you cant see the difference between /b/ and whsmiths then i feel for you.

Mr_White · 27 Jul 2009 at 14:35

Jono8 said:
that wasnt my point.

Seemed like it to me, your point was that 4chan had a child pornography section and that it was somehow rife on there, like most people having a fit about 4chan think.

When in reality it's just some ****s trolling and getting dealt with mods, but things just move so much faster there and it has vastly more users, that it attracts more of these people.

You could use most message board based websites in your argument using that logic.

Dj_Jestar · 27 Jul 2009 at 14:37

Jono8 said:
that wasnt my point.

my point is that you think you will see and read worse stuff in whsmiths.

It actually was your point, else you wouldn't have said 4chan has a section for child pornography.

Strife212 · 27 Jul 2009 at 14:39

Pixel said:
I remember when they did this to Apple by claiming Steve Jobs died of a heart attack, Apple's stock actually fell.

It's a felony to do this though, so someone's going to get in serious trouble I reckon.

During the apple live conference they hacked a live feed though so people thought it was true :cool:

It actually was your point, else you wouldn't have said 4chan has a section for child pornography.

He didn't actually; he was attacking the WH Smiths comparison.

Makunouchi · 27 Jul 2009 at 14:39

Jono8 said:
lol

but seriously if you cant see the difference between /b/ and whsmiths then i feel for you.

It was a small comment in my original post that you then forced me to drag out. Of course I can see the difference, but you've clearly missed my point.

so someone's going to get in serious trouble I reckon.

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