Police new head scarfs
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I think they need to give some training in how the head covering should be worn. The lady on the right of the picture in the article hasn't quite 'got it'.
Ok so lets say I was a member of the force and I have to go to a Mosque. Now for the sake of argument there's no requirement for me to wear a head scarf, but I know that if I wear one the people inside might see me as a bit more friendly and a bit more willing to co-operate. By extension the people in there as a whole might think a bit more of the force in general if I make this little effort. Should I not even bother on the basis that they're in my country and they can like it or lump it? Or is it really hurting anyone if I make this gesture?
Personally I don't see a problem with a little pandering if it makes people feel at ease / more co-operative.
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Those of you that object to this, do you find it offensive that if you visit somewhere like the Pantheon or the Vatican you are expected to dress modestly? Do you expect people of other denominations to respect our rules when visiting places like cathedrals and churches in this country?
I know some of you be bothered if you had to alter your behaviour as you have your own views on religion and to extent I can understand that point of view, though I don't agree with it. It appears though that some people are just getting all anti (what they think is) non British. Tolerance isn't a bad thing and I have to say the majority of the people in this country who I have issue with making the place 'worse' aren't the relatively recent immigrants.
I know some of you be bothered if you had to alter your behaviour as you have your own views on religion and to extent I can understand that point of view, though I don't agree with it. It appears though that some people are just getting all anti (what they think is) non British. Tolerance isn't a bad thing and I have to say the majority of the people in this country who I have issue with making the place 'worse' aren't the relatively recent immigrants.
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Don't see the problem myself.... In fact a bombing was prevented in Bristol recently because the police and the Muslim community worked together to find the perpetrator...
Very well put Muban.
It's about showing some respect for other peoples customs.
I personally think that Morris Dancers are quite odd but I respect their attempts to retain the tradition.
I am not particularly religious, but try and respect the customs of those who are, be they Catholic, Protestant, Jewish, Sikh, Muslim, or even Jehova's Witnesses (I'll spend a few minutes talking to them as I respect and to an extent admire the fact that they are willing to give up their time for their religion).
Wearing a headscarf when going into a Mosque, when not it's not going to cause an undue delay to me would be like dressing smartly to go to Church (be it for a service or Funeral), or making sure my shoes aren't muddy/dirty when going into someone's house.
It's about showing some respect for other peoples customs.
I personally think that Morris Dancers are quite odd but I respect their attempts to retain the tradition.
I am not particularly religious, but try and respect the customs of those who are, be they Catholic, Protestant, Jewish, Sikh, Muslim, or even Jehova's Witnesses (I'll spend a few minutes talking to them as I respect and to an extent admire the fact that they are willing to give up their time for their religion).
Wearing a headscarf when going into a Mosque, when not it's not going to cause an undue delay to me would be like dressing smartly to go to Church (be it for a service or Funeral), or making sure my shoes aren't muddy/dirty when going into someone's house.
I think the idea is that if you go to someone's else's country, you abide by and respect their laws, culture and system. So going to the Vatican or the Blue Mosque in Turkey, you should dress and act as that culture demands. This appears to be the case across the world, except in Britain, where we have to change our laws, system and culture for fear of offending.
They can lump it if they do not want to accept the norm.
We are NOT a Muslim country, in the Vatican it is the "norm" to dress modestly, in the UK it is not the "norm" to wear a head scarf.
What the hell are you talking about?
I'm muslim and don't have any sort of dress code in our house.
Way to chat a load of stereotype ****.
The "muslims" you see in the news are ****s, they don't represent islam in any way. They are just insane ****s using our religion as a weapon to spread their ****.
That's where you're wrong though rypt. Fortunately most British people are more tolerant than you are so I'm afraid that you are the one who is going to have to lump it.
That's where you're wrong though rypt. Fortunately most British people are more tolerant than you are so I'm afraid that you are the one who is going to have to lump it.
I'm wrong for suggesting that while they can do as they please they need to do it within the wider rules, regulations and general behaviour and traditions of the UK ....
It is however the norm in the UK (or used to be, I personally hope it still is), to be fairly tolerant and respectful of religions, we're not a Jewish country either but I would hope no one here would wonder into a Synagogue mucnhing on a bacon sarnie (and that the police would be sensible enough to remember that
).It's a reasonable level of respect for the religion in question, much the same as it's reasonable to expect anyone going to a COE Church to not go in wearing a swimsut, or muddy hobnail boots.
I'm not stereotyping at all.
It quiet clearly states in the article, that Avon & Somerset forces will wear the headwear so they can enter mosques on police business. Which in my eyes shouldn't be the case.
How is this in anyway related to extremist muslims in the news?
There is a major difference between a civilian tourist going on holiday to a country and a Police officer wanting to enter a building in their own state.
I am offended by the lack of respect shown to the Police force, and in this particular case female police officers. I am not anti anything, people should be free to practice and do what ever they want, but the Police force should come above that. If I were a female Police officer I would be livid at the prospect of the whole thing.
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The hell with that, Going a bit far tbh. THIS IS ENGLAND.! lol
Why to we always have to make the comrimise
Why to we always have to make the comrimise
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Good grief, how can anybody be upset by that?
I think the sad truth is that some of us among us are simply looking to be offended. Not too long ago, there was a thread on here where members were appalled that you could have an islamic bank account. Bwuh?!
Good post, Muban.
I think the sad truth is that some of us among us are simply looking to be offended. Not too long ago, there was a thread on here where members were appalled that you could have an islamic bank account. Bwuh?!
Good post, Muban.
Look at the respect shown to police officer in general by the British pubic, i.e none.
People do not respect the police solely for being police any more, and raging about how they should doesn't change that, these days the police have to do something to be respected or people just won't care.
For the record, I find it totally degrading that some British go on holiday to muslim countries and behave like we do (Dubai for example), we should respect their culture.
Likewise it should be respected that female police officers who are not muslim do not need to wear headscarfs to enter a mosque.
Likewise it should be respected that female police officers who are not muslim do not need to wear headscarfs to enter a mosque.
Who says "they" complained?
