But why would anyone want to buy a 920 when a 860 is going to be cheaper and faster ?? Ok a X58 will give you an upgrade path to i9 but still. all the news about the P55 board suggest the i5 and i7 1156's will over clock very well and they all have the usual overclocking options. And isn't the TDP of the 1156 i7 95w compared to 130 for the 1366 i7?
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i7 920 cost Vs scarcity
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I always used to think "a few years down the line..." but in the last few years tech has been getting so cheap, upgrades are not the same nightmare (as my school/student days!) financially. By the time i7/X58 is past it the next line of high end processors/motherboards will be about the same money or less anyway.
Please, i do not wish to say you are wrong,but it is my understanding that new chips will have a turbo boost option without the manual overclocking.
The idea behind this is to allow people who do not, or are not confident enough, to o/clock without worrying about error.
If i am wrong i am sorry.
It's my understanding that an i7 920 will run at 2.66ghz when multiple cores are being heavily used, and at 2.8ghz when one is being used. Or, when overclocked, say 4ghz normally but 4.2ghz when only one core is under use.
However far this is taken, 3.6ghz when only one core is in use or 2.9ghz when they all are is nothing like the same as all the cores overclocked to 3.6ghz.
The idea is to give people better performance when only using one core. My issue is that these people shouldn't have been sold quad cores in the first place. The other objection is to
However far this is taken, 3.6ghz when only one core is in use or 2.9ghz when they all are is nothing like the same as all the cores overclocked to 3.6ghz.
The idea is to give people better performance when only using one core. My issue is that these people shouldn't have been sold quad cores in the first place. The other objection is to
Turbo boost is not a replacement for overclocking
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I am pretty sure it will have the standard overclocking features. Asus seem to be going to town on their P55 http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=752
You're missing the subtlety. If one core from the same manufacturing process is able (and engineered) to overclock to 3.6 then it's a fair assumption they all should. Whether the 8xx will be monster overclockers like the 920 remains to be seen but there's more evidence to suggest they will rather than wont. This all depends on the motherboards rather than the CPU's I guess.
From leaks I've seen I'm fairly confident they will clock well with a decent cooler. Even if they're relatively poor overclockers there's rarely been a chip run that can't handle a 20% overclock.
I think a 920 at £200 is s stonking buy at the moment. Especially if the rumoured price of £350 for the 870 is correct. It sounds pricey but I just cannot see Intel launching the 870 at less than £200.
You get a lot of guarantees with the 920 platform too. From it being able to handle at least a modest overclock to using an established motherboard chipset and drivers.
From leaks I've seen I'm fairly confident they will clock well with a decent cooler. Even if they're relatively poor overclockers there's rarely been a chip run that can't handle a 20% overclock.
I think a 920 at £200 is s stonking buy at the moment. Especially if the rumoured price of £350 for the 870 is correct. It sounds pricey but I just cannot see Intel launching the 870 at less than £200.
You get a lot of guarantees with the 920 platform too. From it being able to handle at least a modest overclock to using an established motherboard chipset and drivers.
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All the current info seems to show the 870 price is the same as the 950 price so about £380 ish + VAT.
Which is a bit high seeing as the 920 is a great chip.
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But if the 860 out performs the 920 which is most likley then the 860 for some people will be better value considering the cpus will be the same price and the boards will possibly less.
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Doh just realized what I actually typed, I was thinking of the 860 which will be very close to the 920 in perfroamnce and the same price (for the cpu anyways).
lets face it until the new chipset is released performance is speculation, best bet if your not sure wait a couple of months to find out price and performance, 920s wont disappear yet, the price might rise but it could also fall if the new CPUs can match performance, at the moment i cant see the need for the OP to upgrade at all, i had no need but just wanted a new toy to O/C, this is an overclockers forum 
it's a little amusing to see this turbo stuff coming up now, are they going to start adding it as a button to the front of each pc case again? Would be like having a 486 all over again 
for me at least, future upgrade choices in a socket are irrelevant as I usually leave long enough between upgrades to pretty much require a whole new pc. On the other hand, getting a replacement if the cpu dies could possibly be awkward, if people end up choosing to upgrade from the i7 to the i9 then it should mean there is plenty of second hand replacement chips to choose from.
One last thing, with the 1156 only being dual channel, does this mean the motherboard's are more likely to only have 4 ram slots instead of 6?
for me at least, future upgrade choices in a socket are irrelevant as I usually leave long enough between upgrades to pretty much require a whole new pc. On the other hand, getting a replacement if the cpu dies could possibly be awkward, if people end up choosing to upgrade from the i7 to the i9 then it should mean there is plenty of second hand replacement chips to choose from.
One last thing, with the 1156 only being dual channel, does this mean the motherboard's are more likely to only have 4 ram slots instead of 6?
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I can't see any reason why 920 would increase in price unless the £ weakens a lot againt the $ in which case all CPUs will go up in price.
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Yes pretty much all P55 boards previewed so far have 4x slots. Check out the P55 board thread.
I have a £5 coin which is worth a tiny bit more than £5, because they don't make anymore.
But it don't perform any better than £5.