Big Cat caught on Video by PC

Werewolf said:
Think about foxes for example, they are a fairly common problem in many towns etc, but unless you're lucky or have something in particular in your garden you're unlikely to see a live one.
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Our fox lies on our back lawn a lot.
We also have a total of 4 in the street that will congregate together outside my house and I have had to move them on late at night because of their whining.

Chav foxes
 
Werewolf said:
Think about foxes for example, they are a fairly common problem in many towns etc, but unless you're lucky or have something in particular in your garden you're unlikely to see a live one.
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I would say I see them occasionally and always in built up areas and never actually in a garden.

The other problem with this analogy is that a fox is generally around 1/2 a meter long and weighing 6-10kg where a big cat can easily be around 1.5m long and weigh 60-90kg, not as easy to stay unseen.
 
Think about foxes for example, they are a fairly common problem in many towns etc, but unless you're lucky or have something in particular in your garden you're unlikely to see a live one.
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i used to see foxes all the time when i lived at me mam and dads...literally id com home from the pub/friends at like 11-1130pm ish and you could virtually guarantee seein a fox or two up and down the road. even got followed by one for a reasonable length of time..little buggers!

and i live in oldham/royton so not exactly the back or beyond!
 
Werewolf said:
I don't know, there are fairly large parts of the UK where they could live, and even in populated area (especially sparsely populated ones) it would be fairly easy for them to avoid being seen too often.

Think about foxes for example, they are a fairly common problem in many towns etc, but unless you're lucky or have something in particular in your garden you're unlikely to see a live one.
We've got foxes that used to manage to kill our hens/ducks if we forgot to lock them up securely in time - in the 30 years we've lived at the house, and the 5-7 years we kept the hens/ducks we only ever saw the foxes twice*, yet we know they were in the garden with great frequency (going by the number of times I had to repair the mesh on the runs/houses, and the number of hens we lost).


*We've seen birds of prey more than that in the garden (and we're in the middle of a town).
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Ok, that is a good example. A fox is a reclusive wild animal that lives in the uk and is also fairly common. Many people haven't seen a fox (personally i have seen one three times near were i live when walking my dog, once in the recreation ground behind my house and twice in the cemetery near where i live, one of those times was during the day and the fox was being attacked by a group of magpies, very odd), i live in the S3 region of sheffield. The number of sightings and even high quality shots of foxes in the uk is probably too great to count.

So potentially their could be a population of big cats just big enough to sustain itself living in the uk in a spot isolated enough not to be frequented very often, to have very few sighting and no decent photographs/films to be confirmed. If you look at the supposed sightings though the facts just don't add up, many sightings are widespread and their are no high quality photographs, the film in this thread was shot in a city for example. Their are also no corpses of big cats found nor farmland animals frequently killed in a manner that could be explained by big cats.

I just can't see a logical argument for a self sustaining group of big cats living in the uk.
 
Because it is. You take those two pics in you post and they are very similar size. remember teh one sat down has it's legs tucked in and it's body is not elongated. There is no way in hell that cat is from one of the large cat familys.
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No way; the black cat would fit across the whole track if it was facing that way. The other cat is nowhere near that long.
 
Werewolf said:
I don't know, there are fairly large parts of the UK where they could live, and even in populated area (especially sparsely populated ones) it would be fairly easy for them to avoid being seen too often.

Think about foxes for example, they are a fairly common problem in many towns etc, but unless you're lucky or have something in particular in your garden you're unlikely to see a live one.
We've got foxes that used to manage to kill our hens/ducks if we forgot to lock them up securely in time - in the 30 years we've lived at the house, and the 5-7 years we kept the hens/ducks we only ever saw the foxes twice*, yet we know they were in the garden with great frequency (going by the number of times I had to repair the mesh on the runs/houses, and the number of hens we lost).


*We've seen birds of prey more than that in the garden (and we're in the middle of a town).
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i see about 5-10 a day... Good old trashy Cities :o
 
Natima said:
I had an entire family of foxes with about 10 cubs living under my shed.
All you need to do is walk down the road in the night time and you are nearly ALWAYS gonna see at least 3 foxes.
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Overlag said:
i see about 5-10 a day... Good old trashy Cities :o
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yup, same, see them constantly, hear them every night (pretty much) thanks to being noisy fighting little gits. Walking around locally I see them constantly in the streets at night, and often in the day aswell. See them in the garden during the day also.

AS others have said, there would be SOME evidence of big cats with almost everyone with a mobile/camera these days, let alone those people who actually go looking for them, in the more likely out of the way places and have yet to find a single shred of evidence. Lack of wild animals being killed, lack of corpse's, lack of really seeing them.

Some house cats are simply pretty damn big, our 2 year old male is, well, huge, when stretched out he can reach the top of the kitchen units which are I guess around a metre high. he tries to knock any random food off the top, if he doesn't just jump up to look.

Pics of small cats, tiny cats, will often be female, we have a brother and sister, he's at least 25% bigger, probably 30-40% bigger, he's ruddy massive compared to her and the biggest cat I've seen around this area. Well biggest normal cat, everywhere you go theres one huge fat ginger cat, just the way the world works I guess :p
 
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how have people not seen many foxes?
do you guys never venture out at night. Often see them when walking back from a night out and even more when driving around for work.
 
AcidHell2 said:
how have people not seen many foxes?
do you guys never venture out at night. Often see them when walking back from a night out and even more when driving around for work.
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I've never seen a wild fox or deer yet I know there's plenty about up here

The first time I saw a wild hare was only a few weeks ago
 
lol @ all the people yelling normal cat (do you have no concept of scale), I'm guessing it's a panther, prolly ex pet of someone or zoo escapee..

guess it can survive quite easily in wild here, plenty of things for it to steal / kill / scavenge


edit: the only way thats a normal cat is if it is next to a model railway :D
 
Flukester said:
lol @ all the people yelling normal cat (do you have no concept of scale), I'm guessing it's a panther, prolly ex pet of someone or zoo escapee..
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lol @ people yelling either way, if someone can prove empirically whether it is big or small then woop. But until such time the information in the video is not enough for anyone to say they are 100% sure of the size of the animal.

There are not enough scale details or details about angle/distance to come to an informed conclusion.
 
Flukester said:
lol @ all the people yelling normal cat (do you have no concept of scale), I'm guessing it's a panther, prolly ex pet of someone or zoo escapee..

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A panther grows to 7ft long. LOL at all the people yelling big cat have you got no concept of scale and more importantly perspective.
 
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That pic is not very good. If you watch the video you can tell perspective plays a very big part as it appears to change size lots. Watch the vid and look at 00:25 where it is walking on top of the rail head. Then tell me that's a big cat.
 
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