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Motorists to pay £250 tax for parking at work
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Soldato
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No, for a start it's transport not trasport.
It's Public transport as it's available to be used by the Public, i.e. anyone can get on it, purchase a ticket and ride to their destination. If it was Private transport then it would have been privately hired for the journey and not available to the general public.
It's Public transport which is privately operated, but that doesn't mean it is Private transport.
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It's not 'moan moan moan'.
It's a 26 mile daily commute.
I'm a hygienic person and wouldn't want to sit in sweat all day. I don't think a sink wash would be adequate.
So what's your point? Am I being unreasonable to the system??!
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a) It's public because it is available for use by the general public
b) There are many cities with council owned bus companies, which are thus publicly owned
c) You can't spell transport.
I swear Gordon Brown gathers all the senior Labour party members and discuss with each other how to lose votes! They can't possibly be trying to win the next election anymore, it is blatantly obvious now that they just want to leave their jobs and go home now with a nice comfortable pay cheque. 'Phew thanks god I don't have to get up for work anymore!'
Get used to it - There's the equivalent of some 5 pence in the pound of new taxes needed over the next few years IF spending is the stay the same. It's more likely that there will be a combination of spending cuts and tax increases.
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..and get very wet in Winter!
Aside from that I agree. Cycling is perfect for that kind of commute and works out a lot cheaper than both Public Transport and driving...
Sure cycling's not for everyone, but then it only needs to be for a few people to make a big difference. If just one in ten current car commuters switched to a bike congestion would melt away and there would be loads of parking. Small changes in traffic volume make disproportionably large changes in congestion etc.
To keep it really easy and have a large effect, you could imagine 20-40% of the people with commutes under say 5 miles taking to the bike. It would be amazing, totally transform city centres.
To keep it really easy and have a large effect, you could imagine 20-40% of the people with commutes under say 5 miles taking to the bike. It would be amazing, totally transform city centres.
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Totally agree with this! Even the people that hate cyclists for no other reason other than it often means getting to work quicker than them in their cars should be able to see this. They don't even have to cycle- just be more considerate on the roads and let other people make up that increase in cyclists. Everyone wins then- roads are clearer for car drivers and safer for cyclists
No, because most cyclists are red light jumping tards. Just means instead of "think bike", we will see "think light jumping idiot" signs more often. *Hate*
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Not really or at least the proportion of those who jump lights doesn't seem to be that much greater than the number of car drivers who don't stop for red lights here - maybe it is a London thing but I could almost swear that a red light here means "stop if you are 4 cars back from the lights when they change, otherwise carry on through".
Not that the above in any way excuses cyclists who jump red lights (although it should be noted that the risks to them tends to be infinitely greater than that of a car driver who drives through a red light) but in terms of ignorance of road instructions cyclists don't appear to be a greater nuisance than car drivers.
we don't have any public transport here.
calling a bus that turns up once an hour going in the wrong direction transport is laughable.
I'd have to get the bus into town (1 per hour) then get another bus from town towards work but only after a 50 min wait (again once per hour), then either walk the last 2 miles or ride a bike.
nice.
also it would cost me about £5 a day. 5 days a week. and I'd have to get up WAY early!
if they do this I'm going to injure myself so I don't have to work anymore. screw the state.
calling a bus that turns up once an hour going in the wrong direction transport is laughable.
I'd have to get the bus into town (1 per hour) then get another bus from town towards work but only after a 50 min wait (again once per hour), then either walk the last 2 miles or ride a bike.
nice.
also it would cost me about £5 a day. 5 days a week. and I'd have to get up WAY early!
if they do this I'm going to injure myself so I don't have to work anymore. screw the state.
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I'll just park in a side street.
When i learned how to drive i thought, YES! NO MORE DIRTY SMELLY PEASANT WAGON FULL OF DISGUSTING BABIES! I can't stand babies on buses, they smell, they're loud, they eat their own poo, it's disgusting, how anyone finds them cute is completely beyond me.
I aint going back to that horrible place.
We have two bus companies here, private owned, and public owned, both rubbish. Only good thing about the private owned one is they give change.
When i learned how to drive i thought, YES! NO MORE DIRTY SMELLY PEASANT WAGON FULL OF DISGUSTING BABIES! I can't stand babies on buses, they smell, they're loud, they eat their own poo, it's disgusting, how anyone finds them cute is completely beyond me.
I aint going back to that horrible place.
We have two bus companies here, private owned, and public owned, both rubbish. Only good thing about the private owned one is they give change.
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wouldn't work, they wont even replace the smashed to pieces shelf edging at work so getting a shower would be impossible. if you've worked in 4 different places and each has had a shower then i think you're lucky, i've also worked in 4 different places, the only one with a shower was a modern building (1 year old) where it had been accounted for in the planning.
of course if it was law to provide such facilities then there would be more people turning to alternatives because running a car IS expensive, but it's not, perhaps the government should work at helping people to think that public transport (buses, trains, trams, bikes etc) are worth taking rather than making it so they simply can't afford to drive.
even in a city where public transport is considered decent it still takes me as much time to bus to work as it does to walk and i could drive it in a 6th of the time, the cost of using this public transport has also increased exponentially in the last few years, it used to be in the region of £2.40 for an adult saver when i left school 4 years ago, it's now either £3.60 or £4.20. trains are also not an option for many people owing to the significant cost (something which is unheard of in the rest of europe where the kind of money we would pay to travel from brighton to Edinburgh could get you across the continent)
at the person who says driving is cheap;
in a country where the average wage is rising (presumably due to people in low paying jobs being made redundant/losing their job) my wage, and many other peoples wages remains the same, 'minimum' if you will, i don't drive yet (planning to learn this year) but i've already worked out the costs and i'm going to have to work an additional day a week just to fund it. just because the average wage is X amount (~22k i last heard) does not mean there aren't copious amounts of people on 12k and to us people it is expensive, but often necessary.
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most car drivers drive dangerously. Equally pointless statement even though I think it's true
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the more they **** of the population and the worse state they live the country in the better for them, because now the conservatives will have to come in and they simply wont be able to fix everyone's problems (not enough money, to much deficit, to many people with to many different complaints) and people will become disheartened at conservatives thinking their no better, and, what's that i hear? oh it's the sound of labour claiming they can fix all our problems (now that the conservatives have put us back on the right path) just like 10 or so years ago.
what does it matter to labour if they lose or win anyway? they earn enough not to care.
Bristol in a sensible drivers shocker?!
Only seen one car that actually went through a red light, the rest were all amber, yeah not too great driving skill there either, but seriously, for every amber jumping car I come across, I see about 3 red light jumping cyclists.
And they are not jumping when its changing, they are jumping well after its red. This is what gets on my moobs. I cycle to work every day when its not rainy, I make an effort to obey traffic rules. What excuses them, and they have the guff to swear at me when I nicely point out that they have just jumped a red light.
Incredibly tempted to start carrying a keyboard so I can catch up to them and whack them one. Cyclist road rage!