Phenom II 940 BE or Q9450/Q6600?

[Rroff]

Turbo is on by default.
Now you contradict your statement about AMD V Intel single thread. My comment was within the realms of that review and the single threaded performance with the clock speed differences - clock for clock its another matter - so no I wasn't contradicting myself - finally the scores would appear to indicate they ran with turbo off

DX11 & more of your theories about how much better it will be on Intel because of one old buggy game that favours Intel CPUS & has nothing to do with DX11.Not sure how you drew the link there as I was talking about vantage when talking about threading - I see your just grasping at straws due to some strange compulsion to discredit everything I say - why do you feel threatened by me?

You got tired of your physx Crusade.I was never on a physx crusade, I was and still am an advocate for hardware physics - running out of things to troll me with?

And a Q9550 is not an i7. I never said it was

I was the one who posted the DX11 spec PDF threads on OcUK. Then you should be well aware of those aspects

We will worry about how well DX11 games run on what CPU when they get here.Sure but that doesn't mean there aren't considerations for multi threaded performance in games before that

 

[Final8y]

contradict? no! not if you have any reading comprehension... think MHz you might get it.

now your just making stuff up to attack me with because for some reason I make you feel inferior - not sure why that is. Can't you go troll someone else I get it you don't like me, no one else really cares if you like me or not.

You made out that AMD had some advantage on single threads when in fact it was Intel that had it from the start & did a Uturn after i pointed it out.
You exaggerate things all out of proportions to make something that's not worth worrying about for the difference in involved costs.

I don't feel inferior to anyone nor do i ever worry about the possibility.
I don't know you so liking you or disliking is irrelevant i only respond to comments in regards to you.

 

[Tr Insanity]

Now you contradict your statement about AMD V Intel single thread.

Otherwise if you plan on running stock and doing single GPU gaming get the PII 955.

yes intel has the advantage in single thread... clock for clock...

Uhmmm , stock and clock for clock are different things , so he was not contradicting himself.

2 posts before me lol

 

[Rroff]

I don't feel inferior to anyone nor do i ever worry about the possibility.

lol then you really shouldn't get so wound up about the stuff I say then...

Please let me explain a little better why there was no contradiction...

2.66gig i7 v 3.2gig AMD... single threaded results show approx. 10% higher performance (can't be bothered to do the maths) for a 20% higher clock speed... AMD is in this instant wining single threaded benchmarks strictly within the realm of this review...

now take it out of the context of that review and put up an i7 clock for clock against a phenom II and the i7 is about 10% faster in single threaded applications...

 

[Final8y]

Uhmmm , stock and clock for clock are different things , so he was not contradicting himself. Learn to read.

2 posts before me lol

Sorry but your pulling random quotes in random order out of context & applying my reply to them when my reply was to other quotes that he said.

Originally Posted by Rroff View Post
more tests at 2.66 v 3.2 lol... come on... and even then look at the CPU results in vantage... in non single thread the AMD gets pummelled even with the clock speed advantage.

Roff is Saying that lintel has an advantage in multi thread when in fact it has an IPC advantage on single thread as well.
He then later on agreed with me which a contradiction to the earlier statement.

 

[Final8y]

lol then you really shouldn't get so wound up about the stuff I say then...

Please let me explain a little better why there was no contradiction...

2.66gig i7 v 3.2gig AMD... single threaded results show approx. 10% higher performance (can't be bothered to do the maths) for a 20% higher clock speed... AMD is in this instant wining single threaded benchmarks strictly within the realm of this review...

now take it out of the context of that review and put up an i7 clock for clock against a phenom II and the i7 is about 10% faster in single threaded applications...

It does not matter how it looks to you as Turbo is on by default & it has to be turned off & the i7 was not the point.
That was closest recent bench that i could find with Multi GPU gaming with the AMD 955 CPU & with an intel CPU, it just happened to an i7 that is better than a Intel Q9550. & that its not worth worrying about If you use an AMD or Intel.

 

[Tr Insanity]

Sorry but your pulling random quotes out of context & applying my reply to them when my reply was to other things that he said.

So what are these "other things" ?

 

[Final8y]

So what are these "other things" ?

Read the my replys to the attached quotes at the time & without putting quotes of your on choosing to my replys.

 

[Rroff]

It does not matter how it looks to you as Turbo is on by default & it has to be turned off & the i7 was not the point.
That was closest recent bench that i could find with Multi GPU gaming with the AMD 955 CPU & with an intel CPU, it just happened to an i7 that is better than a Intel Q9550. & that its not worth worrying about If you use an AMD or Intel.

Not sure what your point is... sure its on by default but based on those scores and the scores I've seen elsewhere for i7 at stock it would appear at first glance that turbo isn't actually on tho I can't say 100% sure.

That benchmark... in the enthusiast world, means dick... it only had any application if your planning to run stock - in which case it doesn't make any odds what CPU your going to buy really... but if your serious about your multi GPU gaming then its a whole different matter... this doesn't help the OP much if hes only going to be running a single card.

As I said in my post if your planning on running stock might as well buy the AMD.

 

[Tr Insanity]

Read the my replys to the attached quotes at the time & without putting quotes of your on choosing to my replys.

I have and conclude that what i quoted is in the correct context

Also, learn to speak.

 

[Final8y]

Not sure what your point is... sure its on by default but based on those scores and the scores I've seen elsewhere for i7 at stock it would appear at first glance that turbo isn't actually on tho I can't say 100% sure.

That benchmark... in the enthusiast world, means dick... it only had any application if your planning to run stock - in which case it doesn't make any odds what CPU your going to buy really... but if your serious about your multi GPU gaming then its a whole different matter... this doesn't help the OP much if hes only going to be running a single card.

As I said in my post if your planning on running stock might as well buy the AMD.

You have nothing to back that up that any possible advantage with an Intel on multi GPU is worth it, that's my point.
The majority of enthusiasts do not have a any benefit is worth the extra cost mentality & even more so with out extensive research.
You don't even put your money where your mouth is with your multi GPU setup.

 

[Final8y]

I have and conclude that what i quoted is in the correct context

Also, learn to speak.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Final8y View Post
Now you contradict your statement about AMD V Intel single thread.

Otherwise if you plan on running stock and doing single GPU gaming get the PII 955.

yes intel has the advantage in single thread... clock for clock...

So that was the order of the conversation & how they appeared in this thread & you didn't snip the quotes that alter the context.

Never mind.

 

[Tr Insanity]

So that was the order of the conversation & how they appeared in this thread & you didn't snip the quotes that alter the context.

Never mind.

I believe i quoted them correctly , in the right order , the first time.

 

[Final8y]

I believe i quoted them correctly , in the right order , the first time.

Sort out your browser & Ocuk forum settings if you think you quoted me & Roff's comments in full & that they appear in that order.

 

[Tr Insanity]

Sort out your browser & Ocuk forum settings if you think you quoted me & Roff's comments in full & that they appear in that order.

I was quoting your comment first then the other two , which are in the correct order.

Anyways , that's irrelevant , i read "Otherwise if you plan on running stock and doing single GPU gaming get the PII 955. " as single thread gaming. Could you not have pointed out that i had read it wrong and explained the contradiction properly in the first place instead of ranting on ?

Once again I'm sorry for being such a snappy git

 

[Rroff]

You don't even put your money where your mouth is with your multi GPU setup.

Its not like I'm buying a new setup tho is it? I've had this setup for awhile and its not worth throwing more money at. Once DX11 cards are out I'll be moving on, for now it does what I need.

Funny how you don't even know me so "wouldn't" care either way but scrape the barrel trying to find ways to discredit me.

 

[Final8y]

Its not like I'm buying a new setup tho is it? I've had this setup for awhile and its not worth throwing more money at. Once DX11 cards are out I'll be moving on, for now it does what I need.

Funny how you don't even know me so "wouldn't" care either way but scrape the barrel trying to find ways to discredit me.

I don't care who people are, I care about comments that are made, you just happen to make the ones that i feel i need to reply to more often than other comments made by other individuals.

A new set-up makes no difference with regards to spending with performance to cost ratio being the most important & not the best that money can buy no matter how much better it is.

DX11 does not matter until its here but you used it as a case anyway even tho there is no refutable evidence put forwards by you to the CPUs importance between Intel or AMD at the resolutions that enthusiasts play at in DX11.

Multi GPU has not just come out in the last 6 months & all of a sudden your telling people that they need an Intel to make use of it.

 

[Rroff]

I don't care who people are, I care about comments that are made, you just happen to make the ones that i feel i need to reply to more often than other comments made by other individuals.

I'm sure that explains then why you have to go to such lengths finding things to discredit me like pulling up ancient physx discussions - which you couldn't get my correct stance on anyway

If you really care about the validity of what I'm saying then discredit it on its own merit with relevant facts - as I'm apparently putting forward such unsubstantiated "findings" it should be easy... or you can carry on posting the same lop sided reviews.

 

[Final8y]

I'm sure that explains then why you have to go to such lengths finding things to discredit me like pulling up ancient physx discussions - which you couldn't get my correct stance on anyway

If you really care about the validity of what I'm saying then discredit it on its own merit with relevant facts - as I'm apparently putting forward such unsubstantiated "findings" it should be easy... or you can carry on posting the same lop sided reviews.

You don't post anything worthwhile to backup what you say & your reputation proceeds you with regards to how much importance you put on insignificant differences.

The CPU is covered in this discussion & talking about you any more in this threads adds nothing of any use.

 

[Rroff]

talking about you any more in this threads adds nothing of any use.

Well I'm glad to see you've come to that realisation... shame it didn't happen 10 posts or so back...