Move over Burns - haggis is English, historian claims

[DOD]Asprilla;14607108 said:
Looks and tastes like spicy mince. When mixed with mashed potato, turnip and gravy it rocks.
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It's probably not so much the taste (heck, there isn't ANYTHING I've tried that I don't like due to the taste), but just the thought of what's in it. I'll try it some day :)
 
Story gets a big shrug from me, it doesn't even mean the provenance of haggis is English - it could simply be that Mr Markham was the first to write about it while the Scots were still playing about with woad and spurtles rather than writing grannies Hieland recipes. ;)

Either way it's not particularly worth worrying about, even if it could be proved definitively that it isn't originally a Scottish dish I doubt it would affect most peoples perceptions of it, nor would it mean that anyone likes it more or less. :)
 
I actually thought haggis had French origins!

I love haggis, I was introduced to it years ago and I really like it. I've not tried haggis Pizza yet but I shall do at some point. Haggis and cheese toasties are excellent though (thanks to Blackstar for that idea) and as for the haggis samosas that they sell in the Deli in Cockburn street in Edinburgh - Fantastic!
 
Feek said:

I love haggis, I was introduced to it years ago and I really like it. I've not tried haggis Pizza yet but I shall do at some point. Haggis and cheese toasties are excellent though (thanks to Blackstar for that idea) and as for the haggis samosas that they sell in the Deli in Cockburn street in Edinburgh - Fantastic!
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Haggis Pizza is a bit meh - I havent tasted a good one yet, most have only had tiny bits of haggis spread all over so you dont get the taste of it.
I've been to that Deli, its amazing. Must go again soon :D
Thanks for reminding me!!
 
mame said:
It's the same trait as a lot of people from Scotland, Wales and Ireland. They latch on to the most insignificant of items that they label as their own and then go on and on about them. They then somehow fail to see that most other things that they use/eat are from England (including the language that most them choose to use.) What is the current exchange rate of the scotish pound? last time I looked it was 1:1.0000 ?
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But not England eh?

What about Football's coming home? (leaving aside the fact that the Scots invented that too and was stolen).

Everybody blows their trumpet about inventions and things, it just so happens that the Scots have more than most.
 
Metalface Mark said:
Everybody blows their trumpet about inventions and things, it just so happens that the Scots have more than most.
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Tarmac, Telephones, Skarves, TVs, Tyres, Golf, Postage Stamp, Raincoat (of some kind)

As per my Scotland T-shirt bought from a random tourist store lol
 
This doesn't make any sense to me at all. I've been to Scotland and I've seen the people there. They eat everything fried in batter, including pizza and mars bars with brown sauce and their national dress is a beer stained vest.

Nobody eats haggis and none of the blokes wear skirts :confused:
 
I had to facepalm at something the newsreader i mentioned previously also so. It went something along the lines of 'So what would Scotlands national food be if haggis turned out to be English? Deep fried Mars bar?' cheeky cow.
Troll ^
 
semi-pro waster said:
Story gets a big shrug from me, it doesn't even mean the provenance of haggis is English - it could simply be that Mr Markham was the first to write about it while the Scots were still playing about with woad and spurtles rather than writing grannies Hieland recipes. ;)

Either way it's not particularly worth worrying about, even if it could be proved definitively that it isn't originally a Scottish dish I doubt it would affect most peoples perceptions of it, nor would it mean that anyone likes it more or less. :)
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It doesn't suprise me. Most of our early history comes from well Ireland, mainly the annals of ulster, and England (slightly less useful shall we say, but good to corroborate others), along with a few other european sources. Most of our early history from a Scottish perspective has been lost - thanks to England.

It doesn't suprise me that they can date an event in English literature earlier than Scotland, but to be honest only the BBC could make a hoo haa out of it. I really cba watching a program on that tbh.
 
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Cybermyk said:
This doesn't make any sense to me at all. I've been to Scotland and I've seen the people there. They eat everything fried in batter, including pizza and mars bars with brown sauce and their national dress is a beer stained vest.

Nobody eats haggis and none of the blokes wear skirts :confused:
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Did you go to glasgow by any chance? Were not all like that.

(Sorry weegies im joking :p)

And "Cybermyk" I don't like you :(
 
Ross1234 said:
Did you go to glasgow by any chance? Were not all like that.
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I've seen them in Aberdeen, Glasgow and Edinburgh. I've only really seen the brown sauce and vinegar mix at Edinburgh and the battered pizza at Glasgow though.

Most time I've spent in Scotland was at the Quest factory in Menstrie when working with IBM and I have to admit, I didn't see any battered mars bars there :)
 
Tefal said:
I guess even deities are suffering in the recession :(
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There was a £100 haggis the other year there, I'll go see if I can find a link.

Haggis is actually alright, with neeps and tatties of course. Good hearty food for winter months. Keeps you warm for hours!
 
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