Iphone 3G/S or HTC Hero?

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Unfortunately what most people seem to fail at realising is that the iPhone is smooth because you can only run a single app on it at once, whereas the Hero is a multi-app phone.

Performance wise you may see a bit of a stutter here and there with the Hero however you'll have 5 or 6 things going on at once which is understandable for a phone...
 
I don't understand the whole "iPhone is better for gaming" argument, is there some amazing hidden aspect of little flash-style games on a phone which I've not discovered yet?
 
Well to be honest having seen some of the videos of the Nokia N series and Ominia phones running Quake 3 and stuff like that those too are very good at gaming.

However, the IPhone really is the most complete phone out there, if I wasn't so concerned about the cost I would have one. I will be going for the Hero no doubt.
 
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Unfortunately what most people seem to fail at realising is that the iPhone is smooth because you can only run a single app on it at once, whereas the Hero is a multi-app phone.

Performance wise you may see a bit of a stutter here and there with the Hero however you'll have 5 or 6 things going on at once which is understandable for a phone...
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There's no failure to realise that on my part. However, I'd rather have solid performance with one app at a time than crappy sluggishness when running 6. I mean, it's a phone ffs, not a computer. I've never needed to multi-task on my iPhone yet and I can't see why I would when programs start in an instant anyway.

And JBod - wow, great response. Several people must be a definitive conclusion. :rolleyes:

TommyTenToes, not every game on the iPhone is flash-style. Infact, most are not.
 
Fair enough, I'm still fairly clueless in the smart-phone department having gone from a Sony Ericsson J132 which cost me a fiver to an HTC Hero. :D

I'm guessing such games are purely single player? Multiplayer would surely rack up a large amount of data transfer and on mobile internet be relatively unreliable.
 
This thread could be interesting for me given that I've been going through this war for the last fornight (or maybe even a month), but sadly doesn't seem to cover any ground I don't already know.

Hero: Has anyone actually experienced this fabled sluggishness? Is it really so problematic that it makes the phone unusable? I had an Apple store rep bemoaning iPhone sluggishness a few days ago btw.

iPhone: What is it that about the phone that justifies a premium of £150-£200 over the HTC (taking contract into account)?

Both phones: What don't you like about your phone? Be honest - no phone is perfect unless you're a fanboy - in which case you're in no position to make a fair comparison anyway.
 
I've owned both iPhone, Xperia X1 and now a HTC Hero - so seen the 3 of the big OS types.

iPhone was very stable, very quick and extremely responsive - never really noticed any slow down - unfortunately I just didn't gel with the phone, the apps were good but not great.

Xperia was lovely with a full Qwerty keyboard but WinMo although highly customiseable was quite sluggish, writing texts would sometimes take 4-5seconds to appear on the screen.

HTC Hero - Android OS is so nice, screen is not as sharp as good in terms of res then the Xperia, but i can live with that - extremely responsive touch screen, lots of apps and widgets to play with... in terms of sluggishness every now and then it may show a visible "lag" moving from screens, but we are talking milliseconds and completely usable!

Also I did jailbreak my iPhone, and did load custom Roms onto my Xperia so definitely played with a vast amount of settings/types/etc...

If I had to pick one now it would still be my Hero - followed by iPhone then the Xperia.

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What I didn't like

iPhone - not very loud, ringtones I would never here and at the time being restricted to 30sec segments (not sure if this has changed) - having to use iTunes (POS Software)

Xperia - WinMo could be quite slow at times, few little bugs with SMS - sometimes the bar at the bottom would cover what I was writing!

HTC Hero - Screen Res
 
The only qualm I have with my hero is the slow (ish) scrolling through my list of contacts which I think is due to the real-time link of their photos and status updates from facebook.
If I could have the option of not viewing these when flicking through a list of people then I'd have no problems with the phone at all.
 
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Oh yeah, totally conclusive :rolleyes:

Whilst the iPhone's biggest issue is the "locked down" nature of the device, if it already does everything you need (in concert with downloadable apps) then there's no real issue there.

The Hero, OTOH, is far from perfect and I've read some rather critical comments about it, notably that the interface is very "stuttery" compared to the iPhone and even its predecessor, the Magic. It looks very much like the build of Android they've put on this phone is too much for the hardware to handle.
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First off I made that post (and this one) from my Hero while travelling. Secondly my response was totally in line with the post I quoted, get over it.
 
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There's no failure to realise that on my part. However, I'd rather have solid performance with one app at a time than crappy sluggishness when running 6. I mean, it's a phone ffs, not a computer. I've never needed to multi-task on my iPhone yet and I can't see why I would when programs start in an instant anyway.

And JBod - wow, great response. Several people must be a definitive conclusion. :rolleyes:

TommyTenToes, not every game on the iPhone is flash-style. Infact, most are not.
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Please read above.
 
JBod said:
Please read above.
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What, so my personal experience of using both the iPhone and the Hero is automatically wrong?

OS X on the iPhone IS much slicker and much more stable than Android. FACT.

There are more apps available for the iPhone than for Android. FACT.

It is a much nicer phone to use than any Android based phone - Personal opinion, obviously.

Android just isn't mature enough yet to compete. It's unfinished, unpolished and needs much more work doing because it's on the same playing field as OS X on the iPhone.
 
If it was up to me, I'd almost certainly go for the Hero, purely because its different. While I agree that the iPhone may be a slightly better phone, I wouldn't say its £200 better.
 
Captain_Slick said:
There are more apps available for the iPhone than for Android. FACT.
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So what?!? It makes me laugh when Apple use the number of apps in their market as a sales pitch, and people recite it as a reason that the iPhone is 'better' than its competition. If Microsoft claimed Windows was better than OSX because of the amount of software written for it the Apple camp would have a field day. Dont get me wrong - I think the iPhone is superb and I may yet end up with one instead of the Hero, but you can't use the above as a reason to get or suggest the iPhone over an Android device.

QUANTITY≠ QUALITY
 
I pre-ordered the Hero, and then cancelled when it was delayed yet again.

I tried out both the iPhone and the Hero, and bought an iPhone immediately. Much much slicker, and incredibly intuitive. However, they are definitely not worth £200 more. But it was a price I was happy to pay because to me, it was.
 
I went with the iphone, over the hero due to the iphone feeling quicker to use :). I really liked the n97 as a unit just not the software on it shame.
 
Captain_Slick said:
Android just isn't mature enough yet to compete. It's unfinished, unpolished and needs much more work doing because it's on the same playing field as OS X on the iPhone.
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Nonsense. It has some way to go, but it's much closer than you think. The open nature of the platform and Google's involvement make it a far more interesting proposition than the iPhone.

I got a new phone last week. I originally wanted an iPhone, but couldn't get one on Vodafone (obviously). So I decided on the HTC Magic, which I decided was an inferior alternative.

After nearly a week's use, I realised it isn't inferior at all; it's just a different way of doing things. And we need that. The market needs that. Anything that breaks Apple's domination of the market lowers prices and encourages innovation.

Android is a great achievement for Google and the OHA and it has great potential for the future. This really didn't need to turn into a fanboy debate.
 
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The iphone does what it does really well, and there really almost is an app for everything!

The BIGGEST drawback for me is no background tasks. Most people think oh that won't affect me i won't be doing fancy stuff with it. But simple things like having MSN and gtalk running in the background isnt possible. You have to leave that app in the foreground :(
 
I got fed up with waiting for the Hero, and got an iphone instead. I also wanted a phone on O2, and to tell T-Mobile to blow me after a terrible 12 months with them. I've heard that the 3GS is more responsive then the Hero, and I'm impressed with the complete lack of input lag.

I would agree with the above posters, that the 3GS is probably a little better, but much more expensive. I've only used an HTC Dream before, along with reading reviews of the Hero, so I can't do an accurate comparison. All I can say was that the iphone really impressed me. Jailbreak is necessary to get the most out of the iphone IMHO though
 
Please just go to the shop and try one :p The fuss these kind of debates stir up is diabolical.

I'd never used an iPhone before whilst I was hunting for a new phone at the end of July. I'd never used a touch screen phone either apart from a quick go on my girlfriends Viewty which I didn't like.

Went into o2 store, tried iPhone, thought it seemed nice, but didn't really understand the hoo-har, it seemed smooth and responsive. Went into Orange and tried the Heroi, thought it also seemed responsive and smooth, although I prefered the querty keyboard (I could type more accurately on it), I also like the GUI, the build quality and feel (teflon coating), Android is also a joy to use, so all these things kinda swung it for me, and the horrendous O2 contracts.
 
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