The Trouble with girls!
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It's only sad for the as-yet-unborn-offspring, who will suffer from their mothers' dissolute lifestyles and probably end up adopting it themselves. For everyone else, it's just plain infuriating.
Is this the 21st Century, or the 19th? Some parts of Britain seem to be stuck in the Victorian era, inhabited by an entire underclass which exists in a kind of weird time warp.
I can't watch this sort of stuff; it just makes me too angry. But sure as hell, it's a powerful lesson about what happens when a nation fails to uphold the pillars of social cohesion.
Is this the 21st Century, or the 19th? Some parts of Britain seem to be stuck in the Victorian era, inhabited by an entire underclass which exists in a kind of weird time warp.
I can't watch this sort of stuff; it just makes me too angry. But sure as hell, it's a powerful lesson about what happens when a nation fails to uphold the pillars of social cohesion.
That we are paying for by busting our asses everyday at work.
It's only sad for the as-yet-unborn-offspring, who will suffer from their mothers' dissolute lifestyles and probably end up adopting it themselves. For everyone else, it's just plain infuriating.
Is this the 21st Century, or the 19th? Some parts of Britain seem to be stuck in the Victorian era, inhabited by an entire underclass which exists in a kind of weird time warp.
I can't watch this sort of stuff; it just makes me too angry. But sure as hell, it's a powerful lesson about what happens when a nation fails to uphold the pillars of social cohesion.
You are from Oz right ? Does this underclass exist there ?
speaking of which the new ep is up
Well boo ****** hoo! I had a bipolar father who was emotionally abusive and pretty damn generous with the belt buckle whenever a little discipline was needed. He committed suicide when I was 16 years old, leaving my mother to raise four kids by herself. But she didn't sit on her backside and beg for handouts; she went out and got a job.
Meanwhile, my siblings and I managed to get through the rest of our lives without turning to drugs, crime or alcohol. Three of us went to university; the other one got a trade (airframe maintenance mechanic). We're all doing fine.
People are too quick to blame circumstances instead of taking responsibility for their own lives. It's so much easier to say "Well, I had no choice". **** that! Most of these people would have had a choice; hell, they would have had plenty of choices.
I didn't ask my father to shoot himself in the head; that was his choice. I just dealt with it and got on with my life. That was my choice.
You realise if you go on a killing spree you'll actually be heralded as a national hero?
It's train wreck TV. Pulls the ratings across a huge range of demographics:
The "Thank **** I'm not like them!" group.
The "****, I live next door to them! Hi Shaz!!!" group.
The "Dear Sir, I wish to protest about the REPULSIVE documentary screened last night, which I consider a COMPLETE WASTE of taxpayers' money... etc. ...signed, Disgusted, of Tunbridge Wells" group.
The "Oh God, we must do something to help these poor people..." group.
The "Damn, that **** is funny as ****!" group (yes OCUK, I am looking at you).
The "**** yeah, I know what's that like, I AM LIVING THE NIGHTMARE DUDE, 'cos the government just doesn't CARE... so FIGHT THE POWER! We gotta take action... Hey man, pass the voddie bottle will ya... ta..." group.
And so on, and so forth.
The "Damn, that **** is funny as ****!" group (yes OCUK, I am looking at you).
lol
lol.
On a more serious note, this was both annoying and interesting to watch. I never realised what an utter joke some parents are, offering cancersticks to your pregnant daughter and treating the pregnancy as an inevitability.
A mandatory breeding exclusion program needs to be rolled out immediately.
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This kinda annoyed me a bit. The parents have a "oh...well....other people are doing it so....she can too". I'm from a fairly rough area and been given the same chances as people from this area but I haven't ended up like that. I'm working two jobs at the minute after deciding college isn't for me for now(still got an hnc from that though). You can get minimum wage jobs with no qualifications if you are just not totally thick which they appeared to be. The fact DSS pay for the flat and they appeared to smoke and drink like hell rather than do something useful with the money annoys me.
I would say good luck to the girl who moved to her sisters though,she appeared to be at least trying!
I would say good luck to the girl who moved to her sisters though,she appeared to be at least trying!
Not really, no. Of course, we do have people who live like this. Some of the remote Aboriginal communities are rife with socio-economic problems (usually alcohol, petrol sniffing, domestic violence and sexual abuse), as are some of the dodgier (white populated) suburbs.
But we don't have your massively concentrated population; we don't have your vast, sprawling council estates and tower blocks with hundreds of people living cheek by jowl; we don't have a list of large towns and small cities which relied on a single industry for one or two centuries and now lie mouldering because that industry has died off or moved on and nobody knows what to do with themselves anymore.
Much of your underclass has been created by a mixture of failed government policy (particularly those which have encouraged reliance on social benefits rather than personal responsibility), increasingly irresponsible social attitudes amongst the underclass, and the legacy of your infamous class system, which has always restricted social mobility, and still does. Add the pressure of social breakdown in the poorer communities, and social mobility grinds to a halt:
A report last year by the Organisation for Economic Cooperation and Development found that in the UK children struggle to escape the income levels of their parents more than in almost any other country in the group.
“There is less social mobility in the UK than in Australia, Canada and Denmark,” it said. “What your parents earned when you were a child has much more effect on your own earnings than in more mobile countries.”
(Source).
Unfortunately, the government seems to think that this problem is best addressed by throwing money at it. That is not the answer, as Australia has learned in her dealings with the Aborigines. You can't make everything better by trying to ensure that everyone earns the same amount of money, for example. And where is the incentive for improving oneself, if destructive social attitudes are no longer taboo? Where is the incentive to get a job, if government benefits pay the same or more than a minimum wage occupation?
Social problems are compounded by problematic social attitudes - and no amount of money will change social attitudes. Social problems resulting from problematic social attitudes are grassroots problems; they begin in the minds of the people suffering from them. That's where the work has to be done.
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You live practically 5 minutes up the road from me, iirc?