Most salesmen in Scotland (ie from the near-monopoly company that will do its best not to Deliver its Promises) are trained to ask if you are trading in. You would have to have the fortitude to brush off their attempts to get you to admit that you have a trade in.
Car scrappage scheme
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You could try but on the two occasions I've tried it they've stated the offer doesn't apply if trading in under the scrappage scheme. Funnily enough, when renegotiating on the basis of a trade it, they only offer around £800 further off - which is what they'd get from the government (remember the 1k from the government includes the VAT element). One occasion they wouldn't even offer the £800 - the dealer said he didn't have time to do all the paper work. We (when I say we I mean my uncle) ended up selling the old car privately for £600.
The dealer is under no obligation to accept a scrappage offer - it's entirely at their discretion.
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I have yet to hear of anyone using this scheme to buy what I consider a 'decent' car, it's all at the bottom/lower-medium end of the market for the most part, in-fact as has been said, some of the cars being scrapped I would consider better than the shiny plastic high-street decorations with sewing machine engines that are replacing them, it makes me sad in a strange sort of way. How many perfectly good cars have been taken out of service to increase this plague of hateful little roller-skates that are littering our streets from north to south, east to west
I admit to being a bit of a car snob, but I stand by my statements, most of these new scrappage scheme cars (that I have seen at least) are horrible nasty little plastic shopping trolleys which are hateful in just about every way if you love cars and motoring.
The Golf and Passat accepted of course.
Ignoring your prejudice, what did you expect to happen?
Scrappge doesn't offer a percentage off the list price - it offers a fixed amount. £2,000 off a £7,000 car makes for far more saving than £2,000 off a £50,000 car.
Plus, if you think about it, how many people in the market for a say £30,000 new car are likely to have a 10 year car hanging around registered to them? Some, but not many.
Think about it.
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Somebody I know (I am too embarrased to go further) has traded in a mint, low mileage popular Japanese small hatchback for a Hyundai i10 using 'scrappage'. The Japanese hatchback had another 10 years in it for sure 
Not sure what this scheme is doing other than allowing lots of daft people to buy brand new Korean cars. I'm sure the Koreans love it but... how does it help us?
Not sure what this scheme is doing other than allowing lots of daft people to buy brand new Korean cars. I'm sure the Koreans love it but... how does it help us?
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because the idea was to boost the car industry as a whole and reduce carbon emissions from old bangers....not protectionism for UK motor builders...
like in the US, the main car bought after the banger trade in scheme is the Corolla...next hondas etc...
not ford, or chevy...and they cant limit it to those brands either.
like in the US, the main car bought after the banger trade in scheme is the Corolla...next hondas etc...
not ford, or chevy...and they cant limit it to those brands either.
You honestly think the CO2 emissions from, say, a 1999 Fiesta 1.25 over its remaining life are more than the CO2 emissions from the production, shipping, sale and then running of a Hyundai i10?
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nope, they tend to focus more on the running cost per mile, than say per junker made....
dont ask me to rationalise a semi irrational decision (which i did not make) i am just positioning an answer to your question based upon the fuzzy logic provided by the government.
basically they want to aggregately improve the average MPG and reduce the co2 of ALL cars on the road...sure each new car that gets created (regardless of scrappage scheme) creates more toxins than the car probably will during its lifetime. but when you have car lots choc full of cars that were made to meet demand 12 months ago, its not very good for the economy... and if you can pass a decision off to try and boost sales for these whilst removing some old bangers from the street, then yes you can tie in a green argument.
dont ask me to rationalise a semi irrational decision (which i did not make) i am just positioning an answer to your question based upon the fuzzy logic provided by the government.
basically they want to aggregately improve the average MPG and reduce the co2 of ALL cars on the road...sure each new car that gets created (regardless of scrappage scheme) creates more toxins than the car probably will during its lifetime. but when you have car lots choc full of cars that were made to meet demand 12 months ago, its not very good for the economy... and if you can pass a decision off to try and boost sales for these whilst removing some old bangers from the street, then yes you can tie in a green argument.
What a crock. What an utter crock (the scheme - not aimed at you!). The very fact that it needs a VALID MOT means that it's emissions output is below the set maximum
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so wait.. what are you saying here? that the car industry did NOT need a boost and that this was a semi logical way to do it..?
We were in the market for a £100k car, upgrading from a £500 Vectra
Is that why he cheaped out and bought a second hand one for half that
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One thing to consider though is that if everyone is running off to prop up the Korean car industry, all that manufacturing CO2 production is over there.
I suspect this means our government can report a CO2 reduction next time they go to one of those environmental summits even if in reality it's just effectively been shifted to the other side of the world.
I'm not talking about the first one, i'm referring to the second one
Which wasn't an upgrade from the Vectra, it was a replacement by Mercedes due to paint quality issues on the first
When going for epeen points you need to make sure everything you say is spot on and not at all misleading
[TW]Fox;14664222 said:Which wasn't an upgrade from the Vectra, it was a replacement by Mercedes due to paint quality issues on the first
Technically it was still an upgrade because the car was returned, not replaced (the second was an entirely new purchase). I suggest you make sure you're research is spot on before trying to falsely debunk my epeen points
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Technically it was still an upgrade because the car was returned, not replaced. I suggest you make sure you're research is spot on before trying to falsely debunk my epeen points
But then you were upgrading from a £50k car not a £500 Vectra
Not to worry, I still crave an AMG Mercedes anyway
[TW]Fox;14664276 said:But then you were upgrading from a £50k car not a £500 Vectra
Not to worry, I still crave an AMG Mercedes anyway
Buying a car for £70k and returning it for a £70k refund is technically a return item
Oh did I mention i'll be insured on it soon?I think you will find you are wrong since it was referring to a statement/question in the thread saying no one who buys an expensive new car will have an old car worthy of scrappage.
I would, but I feel it's a bit of a wasted opportunity to take such a car out only to spend a day watching people put Astras and Focii on a pair of rollers[TW]Fox;14664331 said:Several times
Bring it to a meet or stfu
Organise a Bruntingthorpe meet and now we're talking