The Smoking Ban - 2 years on.

aproctor said:
Spains law is not the same.

Spain has a total smoking ban with exemptions if you are a cafe, pub or club under a total size i.e. Sq Inches of floor space) and if you are over that you have to have no smoking areas.

And then there are exemptions if the building is hosting a wedding, funeral or christening etc.
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Ah wow, was just going on what my parents told me. It's a very odd law they have setup there now reading about it...
 
Extended. Pubs are much nicer places and I don't have to worry about going home stinking. Filthy habbit and the people who feel the need to do so, Can happily smoke in the designated place
 
I think it should be scrapped.

How many of us had to sit in smoke filled environments anyway?

The only places you could smoke were pubs,clubs and bookies and if you work there and it bothered you my advice would have been to seek alternative employment.

Whenever i go to the pub now everybody is outside anyway, i can understand banning inside hospitals etc but apart from places people have no choice in going to you had the choice to go somewhere or not. The free market had made almost everywhere non smoking over the last 30 years aside from places where there was sufficient demand to stay a smoking establishment.

The main issue with non smoking pubs was that no one was willing to take a punt and open somewhere up, and when it did happen (on the rare occasion) it failed, now this could be down to bad marketing, bad location, high prices or just lack of demand.

In offices and such like there didn't need to be a ban as almost all had a no smoking policy as opposed to a smoking ban decades ago when it actually would have made a difference.
 
Extended in what way? Banning it from (enclosed) public places is fine but where would be the next step?

I'm happy enough with the ban as it stands but I can't really see any way that it could or should be extended without seriously curtailing individuals rights.
 
Anything stopping smoking, and people inhaling smoke, is a positive thing. Zurich is about to go smoke-free this year too and if you think the UK smokes a lot, you haven't seen nothing compared to these guys. It's going to be interesting to see how everyone copes, I can't wait. :D
 
I'm amazed at the attitude towards smokers on here. It's almost geeky and bigoted. I don't see why people can't accept that others enjoy the habit and refrain from making remarks about it. I don't do drugs but I don't despise people who do so because I know they enjoy it.

I'm talking about comments towards the actual habit, not on whether it should be banned or not. For the record I support the ban.
 
semi-pro waster said:
Extended in what way? Banning it from (enclosed) public places is fine but where would be the next step?

I'm happy enough with the ban as it stands but I can't really see any way that it could or should be extended without seriously curtailing individuals rights.
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Ah, I mean't extended as in, Extend the length of the ban. Not extend the places it covers.

There should be an option to keep it how it is, As that's what I feel should be done.
 
Richdog said:
Anything stopping smoking, and people inhaling smoke, is a positive thing. Zurich is about to go smoke-free this year too and if you think the UK smokes a lot, you haven't seen nothing compared to these guys. It's going to be interesting to see how everyone copes, I can't wait. :D
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Is it just Zurich or the whole country?
 
Its a brilliant thing.

I am so pleased by the smoking ban, clothes don't stink when I am home from a night out, and no-one bitches and complains about the ban anymore, as its just the way things are. If the ban was removed, I'd simply not frequent pubs and clubs anymore, as it stands it makes for great nights out.

Best thing this govt has done in 12 years.
 
Hikari Kisugi said:
Its a brilliant thing.

I am so pleased by the smoking ban, clothes don't stink when I am home from a night out, and no-one bitches and complains about the ban anymore, as its just the way things are. If the ban was removed, I'd simply not frequent pubs and clubs anymore, as it stands it makes for great nights out.

Best thing this govt has done in 12 years.
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I don't know, that banning of almost all firearms was pretty sweet.

And making rape a crime, it changed my life.
 
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I don't understand why this is even a debate. Smoking is bad for your health, smoking-related issues are a drain on NHS resources. The production and import of tobacco should have been made illegal as soon as the negative health effects were public knowlege.

Alcohol is also bad for you. The drinking age should be raised to 21, regardless of whether you're in your own home or having food. The drink-driving limit should be zero - i.e. no driving within 6 hours of having any alcohol whatsoever. Alcohol-related health treatment should not be free on the NHS, I don't want to pay to keep some idiot alive.

Drugs are also bad, mkay. Anyone found in posession of class A drugs should be deported, give them a Waterworld-style boat and get them the **** away from the rest of us.
 
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billysielu said:
I don't understand why this is even a debate. Smoking is bad for your health, smoking-related issues are a drain on NHS resources. It should have been made illegal as soon as the negative health effects were public knowlege.

The amount of revunue raised through tobacco taxation more than covers any extra costs that smokers might generate. In fact i can't think of any additional burden. Smokers are more likely to die of smoking related illnesses but they are treated in the same way as someone getting breast cancer or having a stroke. We all get ill, and we all die, the people that raise the most costs are those which need care for 20 years because they live to 95, smokers are more likely to die younger and have a quick death i.e. lung cancer etc.

Alcohol is also bad for you. The drinking age should be raised to 21, regardless of whether you're in your own home or having food. The drink-driving limit should be zero - i.e. no driving within 6 hours of having any alcohol whatsoever. Alcohol-related health treatment should not be free on the NHS, I don't want to pay to keep some idiot alive.

If you had a zero tolerance to alcohol everyone would be over the drink drive limit, a level of alcohol is tolerated in the most part to cover people the morning after.

Drugs are also bad. Anyone found in posession of class A drugs should be deported, give them a Waterworld-style boat and get them the **** away from the rest of us.
Drugs are bad eh, so a bit of weed in someones pocket makes them evil?

Are you 12 or very naive?
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You know, I can only comment on this from the point of view of an ex-smoker, I gave up earlier this year and haven't really seen much benefit yet, but I am sure that I will.

I don't disagree with the smoking ban, however I do think that it has had a negative effect upon many businesses, and that really doesn't help in the grand scheme of things.

As to extending it, fine, go ahead.. and while you are at it.. ban the consumption of alcohol in public, after all, we see enough complaints about binge drinking already.

in fact, bring in prohibition, lets go dry and see how happy it makes people.

I don't drink, it wont bother me, but I am sure there are a lot of the anti-smoking brigade, would be up in arms about how prohibition is taking away their right to drink responsibly.

Maybe you drink responsibly, but many others dont, and to be honest, may aswell tar everyone with the same brush.
 
should be extended.(non-smoker)

putting aside the health reasons the smell itself is repulsive. i very rarely went to pubs before the ban, but i went often enough to note that 2 years down the line there seems to be no difference in the quantity of people in the 2 pubs i now regularly visit.
 
I've not seen anything negative from the ban other than the fact that some pubs can end up with the doorway being blocked, as smokers try to huddle around as close to the entrance as possible. But other than that, it's improved pubs and clubs hugely imo.

And despite the recession, the pubs and clubs up here are still just as busy as before the ban - if not more so now.
 
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