British Deaths In Afghanistan

It's amazing how casualties have dramatically fallen over the years. World War 2 for example had hundreds of thousands. Eventually it will all be robots with the odd one or two human casualties.
 
well; imo they signed up for the Army, they made the choice to fight for no reason at all aside from Anglo-American hegemony.

i wonder how many innocent Afghani's that had no choice in war have died?

oh, i guess im not supposed to talk about 'those' people.....
 
Sinque said:
It's amazing how casualties have dramatically fallen over the years. World War 2 for example had hundreds of thousands. Eventually it will all be robots with the odd one or two human casualties.
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Something like 40 of the 200 also were killed in accidents rather than combat as well.
 
Keltik THC said:
well; imo they signed up for the Army, they made the choice to fight for no reason at all aside from Anglo-American hegemony.

i wonder how many innocent Afghani's that had no choice in war have died?

oh, i guess im not supposed to talk about 'those' people.....
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no ...you cant blame the soldiers for doing their duty.
it was bush & blair who decided to go to war.
 
Sad seeing so many photos of people that were killed by IED's, knowing that cannot be a peaceful ending. Can't imagine what that would be like. I would really struggle to come to terms with it if I lost a family member like that.
 
Amnesia said:
no ...you cant blame the soldiers for doing their duty.
it was bush & blair who decided to go to war.
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i don't blame them for anything, i just have little sympathy for people who make decisions that could potentially kill them.

for instance that inventor who tried test-flying his 'jet-taxi' in malaysia and killed himself, probably a nice guy.. but you put yourself into a little metal can with a jet and propel yourself to something like 350 mph into the sky.. then well... you know.

Also - if they signed up to the army when after the wars had started then, again my point stand. If they had signed up prior to the wars beginning then they can still object on the grounds that the war is criminal/illegal/inhumane/ridiculous/pointless etc..
 
Amnesia said:
no ...you cant blame the soldiers for doing their duty.
it was bush & blair who decided to go to war.
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What duty..?

They fought knowing the motivations behind it, either ignoring those by sheer belief of government benevolence or by ignorance, either way they chose to fight, although it is still incredibly sad to see body bags whatever the occasion.
 
durruti said:
What duty..?

They fought knowing the motivations behind it, either ignoring those by sheer belief of government benevolence or by ignorance, either way they chose to fight, although it is still incredibly sad to see body bags whatever the occasion.
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their duty to serve the country.

you make it sound like they have a choice if they want to fight or not.
 
durruti said:
What duty..?

They fought knowing the motivations behind it, either ignoring those by sheer belief of government benevolence or by ignorance, either way they chose to fight, although it is still incredibly sad to see body bags whatever the occasion.
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I think it was Sartre who once said: "When the rich wage poor, it's the poor who die."

It still rings just as true today. Many of those young men on the front-line didn't necessarily choose to fight for any cause; they chose the army as a means of social mobility and a way to help improve their lives but instead they are shipped off to fight in wars they've probably never even heard of for reasons unbeknownst to them.

Their 'duty' remains to their friends on the frontline with them. They fight for eachother and for themselves. The state comes secondary in their minds but it is the state who puts them there. They don't fight because they want to, they fight because they have to - that is their duty to the state.
 
Amnesia said:
their duty to serve the country.

you make it sound like they have a choice if they want to fight or not.
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They do have a choice, they had a choice when they joined the army, they had the choice when they were told that their regiment was going to get shipped into the middle of a pointless war.

As a soldier you are not forced to fight, you can conscientiously object and then go through the process of proving that we went to war on fabrications and lies of the highest order for Anglo-American hegemony.

If the hearing failed then i'd rather rot in a cell for my principles than die fighting for criminals.... but maybe that's just me.
 
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