Are you proud of Britain??

jp_bl_68 said:
6) Which 'useless' things are you talking about?
7) Such as?
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I've only a few examples below of political correctness in this country, but i'm sure there are many more if you shop around :)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/talking_point/1988952.stm
http://women.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/women/families/article738220.ece
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ss-fly-Englands-flag-celebrate-St-George.html

Examples of bad public spending have been made by others already
 
Eulogy said:
I've only a few examples below of political correctness in this country, but i'm sure there are many more if you shop around :)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/talking_point/1988952.stm
http://women.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/women/families/article738220.ece
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ss-fly-Englands-flag-celebrate-St-George.html

Examples of bad public spending have been made by others already
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That second one annoys me. Talking about equal opportunities and avoiding discrimination in schools, it's rubbish. My mum works in a primary school and a white friend of hers tried to get promoted. She did well in the interview, got on well with the kids and passed a basic maths exam, the kind of exam a 10 year old should be able to pass. The promotion was given to another candidate, a black woman who did not pass the maths exam.
 
jp_bl_68 said:
That second one annoys me. Talking about equal opportunities and avoiding discrimination in schools, it's rubbish. My mum works in a primary school and a white friend of hers tried to get promoted. She did well in the interview, got on well with the kids and passed a basic maths exam, the kind of exam a 10 year old should be able to pass. The promotion was given to another candidate, a black woman who did not pass the maths exam.
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I obviously do not know what happened in that specific case but the lady may have brought skills to the job that your mothers friend did not demonstrate at interview or the maths exam was felt to be relatively unimportant for the job (although that does raise the question of why it was included in the first place).

As for the original question - I'm generally pretty proud of Britain, it's definitely not perfect but it's better than a great many countries around the World.
 
I don't know anymore than what I posted but to me it seems that if a teacher is unable to pass such a basic exam then are they really fit to teach. I can't imagine what skills she would bring to the job that could make any employer overlook her apparent lack of education.
 
jp_bl_68 said:
I don't know anymore than what I posted but to me it seems that if a teacher is unable to pass such a basic exam then are they really fit to teach. I can't imagine what skills she would bring to the job that could make any employer overlook her apparent lack of education.
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I'd agree it does sound odd for a primary teacher not to be able to pass a basic maths exam since they will presumably be teaching their students some rudimentary mathematics at least but I'm just pointing out that it might not be an example of positive discrimination which is what seemed to be hinted at.
 
semi-pro waster said:
I'd agree it does sound odd for a primary teacher not to be able to pass a basic maths exam since they will presumably be teaching their students some rudimentary mathematics at least but I'm just pointing out that it might not be an example of positive discrimination which is what seemed to be hinted at.
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Even more odd that the results are known as it's doubtful she would have said.

Eulogy said:
I've only a few examples below of political correctness in this country, but i'm sure there are many more if you shop around :)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/talking_point/1988952.stm
http://women.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/women/families/article738220.ece
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ss-fly-Englands-flag-celebrate-St-George.html

Examples of bad public spending have been made by others already
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The Daily Mein Kampf article in example number 3 demonstrates one of the things I dislike. Trying to associate a lack of St George's day spending with celebrations of gay pride is such a transparent display of intolerance and I would suspect that most of those at gay pride would probably like some more recognition of St Georges day anyway. They are completely separate and have no relation outside the raving prejudices of their core readership.

And really, a few independently acting people changing the lyrics of nursery to rhyme suck up doesn't affect my feelings on the country any more than the hundreds of thousands that display hatred and intolerance at the voting booth. It's usually school aged children we here this example attributed to and we really ought to be upping the calibre in schools so they are learning to think instead of this.
 
jp_bl_68 said:
I'm with you on ID cards (although I'm pretty sure that's been suspended due to financial reasons) but what's useless about immigration?
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I meant the spiraling costs of the process of immigration.

Read http://www.parliament.uk/documents/upload/EA250 Coleman.doc and a counter-rebuttal http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1544898/Academic-hits-back-in-migration-row.html:

Naturally immigrants increase overall GDP but they also increase population, and what matters is GDP per head.
A number of studies show that the net economic benefit of immigration per head of population is about 0.1% of GDP.
In the UK, GDP is about £1.3 trillion so 0.1% is about £1300 million. Per head, among 60 million people in the UK that amounts to about £22 each per year or just under 50p each per week.
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EDIT - DM summary of the word doc: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-488011/Influx-immigrants-costs-UK-household-350-year.html:

Labour's 'open door' policy on immigration costs every household £350 a year, it was claimed yesterday.
David Coleman, an Oxford University academic, puts the total annual bill to the taxpayer at almost £8.8billion.
In a submission to a House of Lords committee, he said there had been an 'absent-minded commitment' to increase the population by one million every five years
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