Virgin 50Mb Installation Questions

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Sorry - I've moved these questions from the ongoing 50Mb thread as that seems to be concentrating on the pricing now:

Hi all, I've qot a few questions in preparation for a new VM fit next week that I hope people can help me with please:

I'm moving from Sky+ HD and BT Phone + Broadband 3 to VirginMedia bundle
Im getting XXL Broadband, standard (M+) TV and (L) phoneline

Can I ask some simple questions as though I'm a technical person I have little knowledge of cable setups:

1/ I've requested to transfer my BT number to Virgin. BT have said that they'll complete this transfer on 12th Sept. My current Virgin installation is set for the 7th. Does this mean that
a) I'll have everything working apart from the phone side?
b) the phone side will work but it will be on another temporary number or
c) am I soon going to get a call/letter from virgin saying my installation has been delayed to coincide with BT?
d) When does BT 'terminate' everything? - I was going to rely on services overlapping (well maybe not a working phone number from BT - but definately broadband) - that way if I wasn't happy with Virgin I could still go back (within 28 days you can cancel for a full refund?)

2/ My property had some old NTL wires/box on the outside wall of my terrace - I just checked and whoever fit my drive chopped/buried the house end of the cable - groan. I imagine if I can find the twin cable then they'll fit a new box on the outside of the house - but -
a) how does this then get split between TV, BB and Phone? My BT phone line comes in elsewhere into the house and ends up at a master socket on the opposite side of the house to the old wires coming from the NTL/NYNEX box.
b) how to they wire in old telephone/extensions?
c) and how to they normally wire to the TV/STB and BB Router? I have STB(with Cables from Sky LNB) coming into my lounge, a dedicated ADSL socket and my router in back upstairs bedroom and phone coming into hall - what are they prepared to do in terms of wiring?
d) if I can't find end of old cable what will they do? I can see a loop of the cable popping up and down a hole on the pavement but no idea what they could do with that...

3/ General question - how are all the signals partioned/multiplexed and what is the effect of sharing these cables (to the street cabinet) in terms of bandwidth allocation? e.g. if I am getting 40+Mbps on my router/pc what happens when I watch HD TV? any difference between VOD content/iPlayer content and 'normal' HD channels?

4/ Is it worth wiring the Ethernet port up on the STB? What is the benefit? (seems slightly counter intuitive connecting one part of the setup to a signal derived from the same cable ....)

5) I love the quality of Sky+ HD on HD channels (normally BBC HD and Sky1, C4 HD) -
a) how does this compare to what I'll get with V+HD?
b) what does the SD picture look like? the SD picture on Sky is pretty good IMHO

6) Anything else to watch out for on the day? I've got all sorts of gear hanging off my network, NASes, PCs, PS3, Yamaha DSPZ-7, Samsung Series9 LCD - I'm expecting this all to _just work_ - no tweaking, changing MTUs etc right?

7/ Once I cancel Sky (1 pack, Sky+ and HD) I'll be saving £27 pm. What can I still do with this setup?

The system was definately setup more than a year ago - so I'm hoping I'm not in any contract (they don't reset your contract if you change/downgrade channel mix do they?)

So... a) are they likely to come and take back SkyHD box?
b) if they don't will I still be able to get free channels? (is there a difference between 'freeview' and 'freesat' BTW) including HD? e.g. BBCHD?
c) or will I need a 'FreeSat card'? [with a freesat card will Sky+ record/pause functions work?]
d) I read on another forum that you can just leave your normal Sky card in and the record functions on the SkyHD+ box will continue to work (for the free channels) - is this right?

I appreciate any feedback you can give me.

Thanks

Bill
 
As above if you like the extras such as VoD and on demand stuff you really should have gone XL on the TV

If your'e wanting HD I would have also gone with a V+ box AFAIK the standard boxes don't do HD but Im sure someone can clarify that, I've only ever had the V+ box.
 
As above if you like the extras such as VoD and on demand stuff you really should have gone XL on the TV

If your'e wanting HD I would have also gone with a V+ box AFAIK the standard boxes don't do HD but Im sure someone can clarify that, I've only ever had the V+ box.

correct get back on the phone and get XL TV with a v+box
 
thanks for the XL TV feedback - BUT I got M with 20+ and V+HD TV package - as I don't care about those extra L/XL channels - but DO want the V+/HD service (and Sky1 hence the M+ package)

This works out £11 cheaper per month (at least on the current prices and using bundle builder - £59 vs £70)
 
Yes but your paying and extra £5 to get the HD channels? When I started with VM I got there lowest package and I now have XL TV and it's worth the extra then again I'm not paying so much for my internet

XL TV, XXL BB and L phone is £69 so it's £10 more well worth it imo
 
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But isnt the On demand part of the V+ service?
On Demand stuff is free on TVXL not sure about any of the lower packages.

The aspets of V+ I can see you being able to use free is the PVR function and thats it I would think.

Also aren't the HD channels themselves only available on certain packages?

I never really pay much attention to the VM TV side of things lol.

EDIT:
VMs billing/packages are a joke too btw.

So many of us paying wildyly differnet prices.

Im on £45ish atm and get
XL BB
XL TV
V+
M Phone
Caller ID
Premium Barring
Call reject
 
Looking at the M+ package (with V+ HD box) - I'll get the standard HD channels.

What will be good is if I get Sky1HD if it comes to Virgin. This is the only channel I'll be missing compared to Sky.

Thanks. Bill
 
After lots of calls, 3 sets of engineers and cable pulling teams I'm up an running at 50Mbps (some speedtests measuring 55Mbps!) with Virgin phone and HD tv all ok too.

Thanks for advice and help.

Bill
 
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