Lights off at petrol stations?

If the conditions are right a mobile phone giving off mircrowaves can cause a spark.

And a car leaving the station can backfire / spit flames out of the exhaust ... what is more likely to cause a fire, a mobile/lights or a flame spitting car?
 
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about 3-5p a litre i guess, from memory. the garage i worked at used to sell about 50,000 litres a day. at 5p a litre, that's £2.5k/day - not a lot really. shop sales always made more profit, something like 60-70% of the total profit made.
 
The woman you started this rubbish thread about probably thinks your a ****er for not just turning off ya lights like any normal person would.

We have established from this thread that normal people dont know you should turn your lights off. I turned mine off as soon as i realised it was the issue.

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Are you?
 
And a car leaving the station can backfire / spit flames out of the exhaust ... what is more likely to cause a fire, a mobile/lights or a flame spitting car?

Mobile phones operated on a wavelength similar to a petrol pump nozzle length. If the conditions are right you 'could' generate a spark at the tip of a nozzle when it enters the fuel filler
 
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I decline to answer this question on the grounds that I may incriminate myself ;)


I can just see the Plymouth Chronicle now:

"Chav steals 5 series and attempts drive-off, petrol attendant alerts police as he left his lights on"
 
Mobile phones operated on a wavelength similar to a petrol pump nozzle length. If the conditions are right you 'could' generate a spark at the tip of a nozzle when it enters the fuel filler

I call BS on that one, show me one scientific test proving that?

Mobile operate at 1800MHz, which gives a wavelength of 0.16m I think (or 0.33m if they are on the 900MHz band)

So it's either 16cm or 33cm, the nozzle of a pump is not either those really.
 
Very narrow lanes at our pumps, no gaps inbetween, if everybody needs to get out in an emergency they are going to hold people up. No matter how "good" they say they are at reversing they are never going to be as fast as everybody facing forwards. Larger stations with big lanes I can't see the problem.

The hoses stretch anyway as they are huge.

Oh I see, I never even thought about an emergency evacuation. I can understand the point in that rule now.
 
I call BS on that one, show me one scientific test proving that?

Mobile operate at 1800MHz, which gives a wavelength of 0.16m I think (or 0.33m if they are on the 900MHz band)

So it's either 16cm or 33cm, the nozzle of a pump is not either those really.

yes, it would have to be closer to 5ghz lol
 
I had one where my car was parked the opposite way to where it should have been ( No signs saying it had to be ) and they wouldn't activate the pump. When I asked the lass said it was company policy and that I may drive off if facing the other way.

I said the way I am parked makes no difference and that I quite intend to pay. She wasn't interested. I got in the car and left.

Strange policies some forecourts have.

If they want to reduce bilking they should go American and get people to pay first.
 
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However, electrostatic discharge could be a risk. There are a few opinions here.

Electrostatic discharge travelling though the persons body, though the plastic of the pump/rubber bushes on the nozzle and so on? I also believe that the pumps are grounded to prevent sparks.

I'm sure a car spitting flames has a higher chance of igniting the petrol station, and yet we don't see RX7s banned from filling up.

If they want to reduce bilking they should go American and get people to pay first.
No, they should stop being tight gits and just introduce pay at pump EVERYWHERE :)
 
Electrostatic discharge travelling though the persons body, though the plastic of the pump/rubber bushes on the nozzle and so on? I also believe that the pumps are grounded to prevent sparks.

I'm sure a car spitting flames has a higher chance of igniting the petrol station, and yet we don't see RX7s banned from filling up.


No, they should stop being tight gits and just introduce pay at pump EVERYWHERE :)

Indeed, it's such a tiny risk it's virtually nil. But you can't deny the physics.
 
Indeed, it's such a tiny risk it's virtually nil. But you can't deny the physics.

As I said, there are plenty of things (that are not banned) I can name that are more likely to cause the petrol station to go "boom" than a mobile phone and car lights :/
 
Yup. It's similar to the mobile phones on aircraft problem where they may cause interference with systems on the plane, but that was disproven on Mythbusters a while back :)
 
Brimmed the car up on the way home, asked about this at the cheapest (esso actually) garage near my work and the girl said they didn't have any policy as such, CCTV and local police tended to cover it. They struggle to chase the drunks from stealing the flowers out the buckets though apparently. I'd hate to see the forecourt policies for that in some of your garages... i'm going to keep asking where ever I top up, out of interest.
 
Wow, a jobsworth no mark woman working in a petrol station, tell me it ain't so! Most non entities have to create an aura of importance about their 'job' because that have NOTHING in their life. Lichfield Shell station has one such no mark, always does something else (walks to other till, decides to move some stuff around her desk, fiddle with a till) when you try to get served.

It's a woman thing more often than not, point and laugh at them and never use their garage again.
 
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