Who hates the Union Flag?

Mother of God... WALES IS IN THE ******* UNION FLAG.


They are NOT a separate state, or like Scotland. Neither, technically, is England. They are "England and Wales".


This aversion to the Union is really starting to **** me off. Scotland are going to destroy this country. If we're nothing on our own in the world, WTF does Scotland think IT will be?

Christ, did you actually read what I wrote?

LEGALLY it isn't a separate state, but it has its own language, it has its own Assembly, and SHOULD be considered a separate state. That way, one day, all these separatists can have their own economy and fiscal responsibility, and we in England wont have to subsidise them anymore..

They were only conquered in the same way many other commonwealth countries were conquered, and should be allowed their own country if thats what they wish for.

I am saying, be careful what you wish for.

I don't consider myself English, I consider myself British. Few people from Scotland or Wales would say the same.
 
The majority of Australians want a republic. There is also strong support for a change of flag (though I don't know if it's reached a majority yet). We had a referendum on the republic in 1999, but the question was cleverly worded in such a way as to divide the republican vote, since it did not merely ask "Do you want Australia to become a republic", but required consent to a specific form of republic which is not universally supported amongst republicans. Consequently, many republicans voted against it (along with the monarchists) and the amendment did not pass.

Our Prime Minister at the time was the strongly conservative John Howard (Liberal Party; our equivalent of your Tories), who is openly monarchist and was keen to stifle the republican debate (which he successfully achieved via the skewed referendum). Our current PM is the less conservative Kevin Rudd (Labour Party), who has promised to make Australia a republic. The change is inevitable; it's only a matter of time.

Despite this, many Australians (including some republicans) would prefer to wait until QEII has died or abdicated before changing our system of government. She still enjoys tremendous respect in Australia amongst monarchists and republicans alike.

My own views have changed radically during the past 6 years. When I came to the UK in 2004, I was a strong monarchist with no desire to remove the monarchy or change the Australian flag. I am now a strong republican with a keen desire to remove the monarchy and change the Australian flag, which is an excellent flag in its own right, but irredeemably anachronistic and wholly unsuited to an Australian republic.

This political shift has been largely motivated by my realisation that the Queen is little more than a token figurehead in her own country, and is therefore completely redundant in mine. I also believe it is time for Australia to assert her own identity, acknowledging and respecting her British roots but moving beyond them to a truly independent future as a successful multicultural nation.

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A very interesting read. Thanks for that.
 
I don't consider myself English, I consider myself British. Few people from Scotland or Wales would say the same.

Indeed, "English" tend to identify themselves far more readily as British (and liking both the Union Jack and St George's Cross) while the Scots and Welsh tend to try to cling on to their own identity - something that probably goes back to England being the dominant party in the Union - despite having a Scottish king originally.
 
Yes he is, he is a cultural marxist, just as brown.

LOL. "Cultural Marxist". LOL.


It wasn't about a non kosher meal. He's not Jewish! It was about a meal with no red meat, since he was on a red meat free diet at the time. Jews are actually allowed to eat red meat! Is there no end to your nonsense?

The next time I want the uninformed opinion of an ignorant кула́к, I'll ask you. Until then, try to curb your enthusiasm. :rolleyes:

A very interesting read. Thanks for that.

My pleasure. :)
 
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I do think we ought to incorporate some part of Wales in the flag as well. Maybe the Welsh dragon in the centre as has been proposed.

I see no reason why we shouldn't seek to incoporate all member states in the flag and the change would be sufficiently simple as to no spoil the overal look, albeit with less simplicity of design.

No that would look horrible.
 
We should adopt this flag:

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Why? Because it looks cool.

Holy Empire of Great Britain, Supreme Commander Gordon Brown.
 
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