Best hot hatch atm?

-TNT- · 8 Sep 2009 at 17:28

Ringiho said:
LCR

lol this

MrMoonX · 8 Sep 2009 at 17:40

Focus ST or RS for a daily driver

Lopéz · 8 Sep 2009 at 18:03

If you want a hot hatch with an Abarth badge, get a Strada 105 TC

Rroff · 8 Sep 2009 at 18:13

Orange Peel said:
The 156BHP engine is the C20XE which is NA and not fitted to any Corsa as standard. The C20LET is jsut over 200BHP and was only fitted to the Calibra and Cavalier in the UK.

Either way that Corsa would not be factory standard or relevant to this thread.

Rhyzz said:
Corsa C20LET owners are ****** - yes it's a broad generalisation but I don't care!

Your right there - which is why I didn't take too much interest... but they were beating a lot of fast cars... when they weren't suffering mechanical problems... I assumed they were standard engines on the corsa with a few mods.

LiE · 8 Sep 2009 at 18:22

When you say beating, are you talking about on a track?

Ev0 · 8 Sep 2009 at 18:49

Brokeback said:

I love how the Clio sports are always compared and pitted against cars in the class above

Where are the reviews of the Corsa VXR against a Focus, or a Fiesta ST against a Megane?

Good clip though, esp when you see the focus with all 4 wheels off the ground!

spaz · 8 Sep 2009 at 19:12

Lee456 said:
Nice - any chance of a little board review here once it's arrived?

Will do my best, but I give no guarantees about the quality and impartiality of the review

!

PeterT · 8 Sep 2009 at 20:49

I don't think you would be disappointed with the S3 2.0T.

Barks · 8 Sep 2009 at 20:58

PeterT said:
I don't think you would be disappointed with the S3 2.0T.

I haven't driven one but a lot of people say it lacks character and that it isn't that engaging or fun to drive.

Rroff · 8 Sep 2009 at 21:37

msm722 said:
When you say beating, are you talking about on a track?

Nah straight line on an old airfield.

Ev0 · 8 Sep 2009 at 22:14

JoshAFC said:
Renaultsport Clio 182... by far the best car I've ever owned (should never have sold it).

Go find yourself a copy of Evo magazine from '05, the one where they pit the Clio 182 Trophy against a BMW M5. It gives a brilliant review of all that is right with the 182/Trophy.

They can be picked up reasonably cheaply now too, so much fun for so little £££'s.

Being picky, it was an M6 I believe

Fr0dders · 8 Sep 2009 at 22:19

scott212 said:
Mazda 3 MPS. Looks like a joke, will leave a lot of other hot hatches in the dust. The ultimate in stealth.

Focus RS is the best all rounder

Megane R26R is probably the fastest round a track and most driver focused

Mazda 3 MPS is the car that looks least like a hot hatch and will surprise everybody.

Barks · 8 Sep 2009 at 22:20

That's not surprising given the M6 is more of a grand tourer than a sports car. Wouldn't something like a Z4M have been a fairer comparison?

sloth · 8 Sep 2009 at 22:38

I'm biased as I've got one, but the Clio 197/200's offer a lot of fun and point-to-point performance for the money. Not outright speed, but they're very chuckable and fun. I prefer my 197 over my previous 2.5T Focus ST, even though it's slower, worse built, has less equipment and less reliable. It's just a better hot hatch, imo.

I'd love to try an Abarth 500, they look like they could be grin inducing.

Focus RS obviously looks great, but it's too expensive, same with the LCR, GTI, Type R, S3 etc. Hot hatches should be light, chuckable, practical-ish, bring a huge smile to your face, and most importantly, be cheap.

Vigoro · 8 Sep 2009 at 22:42

I thought Type-R's were relatively cheap in comparison to others of its size?

sloth · 8 Sep 2009 at 22:49

Vigoro said:
I thought Type-R's were relatively cheap in comparison to others of its size?

It's still 19k! The old one was 16k. Focus RS is 26k. 500 Abarth is 13k. Clio 200 is 16k. That kind of difference buys a lot of fuel and insurance.

s0ck · 9 Sep 2009 at 00:15

The last gen CTR has gotta be a winner?

JoshAFC · 9 Sep 2009 at 08:57

Ev0 said:
Being picky, it was an M6 I believe

Ah yes, you're correct, it was the M6.

This is the issue I was on about...

http://i16.ebayimg.com/07/i/001/43/3e/b3e6_35.JPG

adam cool dude · 9 Sep 2009 at 08:59

Civic Mugen RR. If they put it into production! or the current JDM Civic Mugen RR if imports count.

Rhyzz · 9 Sep 2009 at 09:31

Type R's are just insurance pitholes though aren't they? Fact is that VTEC requires you to be driving like a tool to get any sort of performance and insurance companies are getting wise to it!

Why does no one ever mention cars like the DC5? That's still a hatchback isn't it? A damn good one at that! Pick them up for about £15k now cant you?