9 ball

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Can you play the object ball onto the 9 ball and win at any time during the game, even after a scratch/foul? I know you don't have to 'call it'.

If so, is this considered bad sportsmanship to do so? I mean, if you can place the cue ball anywhere on the table (following a foul), playing it on to the 9 ball to win just seems a little easy, unless it's tied up of course.

Also, 3 fouls and you lose right?
 
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It'd be just too easy to win in this scenario. Am I making any sense?:p
 
peterattheboro said:
You can knock your allocated ball onto the 9 ball to win I believe. No idea on the fouls though.
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Yep, I know, but picture this. Your opponent has just fouled on the break. You have the cue ball in your hand, and place it an inch away from the 1 ball, and knock it onto the 9 ball that's hovering over the pocket.

Game over. Opponent very annoyed?
 
i really dont like 9 ball if your real good with your aim you can win fairly easily as potting 9 balls when there is little on the table is not actually very difficult. Though i have never tryed using that trick to win off a foul, id feel really cheap tbh. I played it on someones phone against them and they potted the 9 on break. A monkey must have coded the physics in that game lol.
 
I love it. I love the fact that if you miss, assuming your opponent is decent, then you've lost.
It's much more entertaining than snooker, though I don't doubt snooker players are more talented.


You just don't seem to have more sensible rules in 9 ball. See the above vid, in snooker you'd not be allowed to lay a snooker on the object ball, not only that, he play an intentional foul/scratch! Makes for some good viewing though:cool:

edit: i guess this confirms the 3 foul rule question..
 
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Of course you can place the white to make it "easy" to pot the 9 but the beauty of 9-ball pool is the cut-throat nature. Why should your opponent be annoyed if you do this? He made the foul, not you. But the danger of going for the 9 is that if you leave it over the pocket, he can win, and you lose.

That's a major part of the skill of the game is deciding when to run and when to hide.
 
MikeTimbers said:
Of course you can place the white to make it "easy" to pot the 9 but the beauty of 9-ball pool is the cut-throat nature. Why should your opponent be annoyed if you do this? He made the foul, not you. But the danger of going for the 9 is that if you leave it over the pocket, he can win, and you lose.

That's a major part of the skill of the game is deciding when to run and when to hide.
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You can get kicked from virtual pool 3 servers for doing it. I'm not sure whether its frowned upon in RL though.
 
Tim said:
Game over. Opponent very annoyed?
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Happens all the time in the world championships, I remember Fong Pang-Chao running out 4 racks in a row by using a combination shot very early in the rack, but it's a legal shot, and nothing his opponent can do.

3 fouls rule is correct, AFAIK, but I'm not a 9-ball player.

In 8-ball, if you intentionally foul like in the video you can be penalised, can you not?
 
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MikeTimbers said:
So in a virtual pool game you can't do something that is not only legal but a key part of the game? madness.
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Yes, it's just seen as not being very sporting.

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Also, whats the deal with Earl Strickland? I've been watching a load of 9 ball vids on youtube. The man has issues:eek:
 
Tim said:
Yes, it's just seen as not being very sporting.

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Also, whats the deal with Earl Strickland? I've been watching a load of 9 ball vids on youtube. The man has issues:eek:
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When he's in a bad mood, he's in a REALLY bad mood. I've lost count of the number of cues he's snapped. Him and Michaela Tabb often have run-ins but there's only ever one winner, as he wimps out :D
 
On the subject of 9-ball, I was lucky enough to be at a competition in HK in the mid-nineties when a wealthy pool bar owner put up a prize for a team 9-ball game and got the Philippine guys plus a team of Americans and a team from Europe. The Philippine team include Efren Reyes and Bustamante, the Yanks included Strickland while the Europeans included the then World Champion, Oliver Ortmann and Steve Davis and Jimmy White. Steve and Jimmy were the only ones who got paid appearance money which ticked off the rest but I got a chance to ask Steve about the relative skill levels of 9-ball vs snooker.

He was fascinating. His view was that with snooker the available arc on the object ball where contact can be made is incredibly small so changing where the ball goes is done with spin on the cue ball. With 9-ball, the pockets are so big, that the available contact arc is huge so you change the impact point to control the ball.

His view was that the two games were so different that they couldn't be compared but he also added that all the skill in 9-ball was in the tactics not the physical hitting and pocketing of the balls.

The tournament winning shot by the way was a plant after a foul by Reyes onto the 9-ball to pot it.
 
That's an entertaining little exchange but I can't say I like the fouls just as a matter of principle, it's probably why I'll never be a particularly good player but I much prefer to always go for the pot than play a defensive shot and especially one where you're deliberately fouling to do so.

And in case you were still in doubt you would be allowed to do a plant like that in 9 ball from ball in hand, it's perfectly within the rules.
 
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