Will You Buy Windows 7???

Surely that's a problem with third party's drivers not the OS itself? 7 x64 has been perfect out of the box for me.

Hmmm , the win7 32bit RC worked fine out of the box on the same hardware
The 64 RTM does not , guess it depends on the hardware , you got lucky , I did not (twice) or 2 completely different machines.

Guess its the ye olde luck of the draw , but I will give the 32bit a go see if it works better.
 
Hmmm , the win7 32bit RC worked fine out of the box on the same hardware
The 64 RTM does not , guess it depends on the hardware , you got lucky , I did not (twice) or 2 completely different machines.

Guess its the ye olde luck of the draw , but I will give the 32bit a go see if it works better.

Some OEMs only make 32bit drivers (very annoyingly), surely it's their fault?
 
I just saw that Students can get Home Premium OR Pro both at £30 if they already have a legit XP/Vista install. Nice.

I have an OEM Vista installed on my main desktop... so I could use the £30 upgrade to this. However I also want to install onto a new SSD? Will 'showing' the Win7 install process my OEM Vista DVD be enough to enable the £30 upgrade disc to install on this new drive?
 
Using my technet eval version of 7 Ultimate x64. So far its bee spot on.
When general release comes, i'll get the x64 just undecided on which edition to get yet.

I have been testing out the msdn windows 7 both 64 bit and 32 bit ultimate editions
I have to do this for work for compatability testing of our in house software

The 64bit ultimate edition has been a pain the the bottom on 2 completely different systems
It wont work right with DVB-S cards and has a lot of audio problems when playing back
music / movies , most likely its driver related but no editions of drivers I have tried has
fixed it yet.

Uhuh....use sateliite viewing cards regularly at work do ya? ;) :p
 
Some OEMs only make 32bit drivers (very annoyingly), surely it's their fault?

Na there are 32 and 64bit drivers for my hardware for both windows 7 and vista
sadly none of them work right

On one system its a sigmatel audio chip and on the other its a realtek 888 audio chip
Like I said the 32bit win 7 RC was fine , the win 7 64bit Ultimate has problems with both systems no matter which driver version I try.
My systems are triple boot , Xp32 sp3 , win7 ultimate 32 and win7 ultimate 64
So luckily I can just boot into xp and my hardware all works fine :-)

Hopefully these issues will get fixed before general release to the rest of the world
 
I have an OEM Vista installed on my main desktop... so I could use the £30 upgrade to this. However I also want to install onto a new SSD? Will 'showing' the Win7 install process my OEM Vista DVD be enough to enable the £30 upgrade disc to install on this new drive?

I'm not sure how it works. I don't know about the student upgrades and what happens if you change motherboard etc. Can you reactivate it with no problems if it is an upgrade? I thought that Europe would all get retail versions anyway meaning a check on vista/xp licence would not be needed. It's not a physical shipment but rather a download link to the product in this case I believe.
 
I'm not sure how it works. I don't know about the student upgrades and what happens if you change motherboard etc. Can you reactivate it with no problems if it is an upgrade? I thought that Europe would all get retail versions anyway meaning a check on vista/xp licence would not be needed. It's not a physical shipment but rather a download link to the product in this case I believe.

If you apply an upgrade version using an OEM Serial from say Vista then you end up with an OEM EULA on the Windows 7 install so are tied to one mobo.

You can't get an upgrade for an OEM license and expect to have a retail copy of Windows 7 after installation.
 
Thats not true. As you dont actually need any older OS to use the upgrade, as you can install it without using the key, then install it again over the top and activate. You end up with a EDU Upgrade license.

That's how it was with Vista Academic copies anyway.
 
Looking at the Windows 7 vs Vista Gaming performances I definetly will not, an extra 60 quid for a OS that gives the same performance as vista, il pass. i love vista i have absolutely no issues with it apart from minor ones. if u think differently u can kiss it :D j/k
 
Thats not true. As you dont actually need any older OS to use the upgrade, as you can install it without using the key, then install it again over the top and activate. You end up with a EDU Upgrade license.

That's how it was with Vista Academic copies anyway.

Not sure about academic copies but cetainly the student deal on the MS website says that a valid copy of XP or Vista is required so portions of the original XP or Vista EULA wil apply if using the upgrades for sale on that site.
 
Looking at the Windows 7 vs Vista Gaming performances I definetly will not, an extra 60 quid for a OS that gives the same performance as vista, il pass.

So because you get no better performance in a game using Windows 7 you won't upgrade? Nice reasoning. Let's all never upgrade because our FPS doesn't improve using the next OS.
 
So because you get no better performance in a game using Windows 7 you won't upgrade? Nice reasoning. Let's all never upgrade because our FPS doesn't improve using the next OS.

Unfortunately there are a lot of people like that.
I remember when XP Service Pack 2 was released - it contained a fair amount of fixes, features etc.
However a whole bunch of people over at Futuremark would not update because their 3DMark scores were dropping by around 5%.
 
I've just finished fresh installing my academic copy of win7 x64 Pro. Didn't need to upgrade from my old Vista install and best of all it's freeeee :D
 
So... sorry, need to clear this up. The prettier half wants to take advantage of the Student Discount for Win7, what are the limitations of this? Does it affect the install in any way or is it a fully functioning retail version (dependant on key used)? How does it affect the licence as well?

She already has a copy of Vista Basic, so will the key then produce a copy of 7 Home Basic? However, i thougth it wasn't an upgrade, so will it just install 7 Home Premium?
 
just found out i'll be getting the following for hosting my own win 7 house party.

* One limited Signature Edition Windows® 7 Ultimate
* One Deck of Playing Cards with Windows® 7 Desktop Design
* One Puzzle with Windows® 7 Desktop Design
* One Poster with Windows® 7 Desktop Design
* Ten Tote Bags with Windows® 7 Desktop Design for hosts and guests
* One table top centerpiece for decoration
* One package of Windows® 7 napkins

so no i wont be buying windows 7 :P


btw anyone know what a tote bag is?
 
Home premium being limited to 16gb ram doesn't sound very good. In about 2-3 years many enthusiasts will be on 24/32gb ram

Surely any enthusiast who'd want to use that much RAM (and had enough money to buy that much RAM) wouldn't buy HP in the first place?
 
Surely any enthusiast who'd want to use that much RAM (and had enough money to buy that much RAM) wouldn't buy HP in the first place?

32gb seems a lot now but in 3 years I'd bet that you could get 32gb for less than £190. You can buy 12gb now for about £150.
 
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