Anyone else watch this and think "Yeah, she asked for it"?

Your probably right. But provoking an armed officer, twice no less and then being "traumatized" by the subsequent hiding you get is a bit hard too swallow in all honesty.

I dont condone his behaviour, but no do i hers either. And what little sympathy i had for a woman protesting capitalism who recieved a hiding, has dried up somewhat when i see her seeking out Mr Clifford on "how to tell her story".

Maybe once shes made her fortune, people can riot/protest her property and she can give one of them a hiding.:rolleyes:

What a mess things are hey? makes me want to spit sometimes.
 
Dj_Jestar said:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7999277.stm

I'm watching that, and I'm seeing some Police Officers being riled by many protesters. There's lots of commotion going on, and some protesters being very persistent about being in the faces of the Police officers.

Frankly, I think she deserved that slap, and then the baton for not learning her lesson from the slap.

The other case I just can't tell from the vid. He (the chap that died) did seem to be taking his sweet time getting a move on, but I can't tell if anything was said or if there was other trouble or whatever.
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He's been charged with assault, there was another charge brought against him but that was dropped due to insufficient evidence
 
i think the office was justified. i mean the police are meant to be a deterrent, if they cant use force then what? why even send them out

any officer in his situation would probably have done the same thing. you have a crowd of rowdy people round you and one is right in your face, it would be very hard not to react
 
Cruiser said:
i think the office was justified. i mean the police are meant to be a deterrent, if they cant use force then what? why even send them out

any officer in his situation would probably have done the same thing. you have a crowd of rowdy people round you and one is right in your face, it would be very hard not to react
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Police Officers have a baton to act as a deterrant. Not a back hand. I don't think a back hand is justified really, however, being struck with a baton across the legs is justified.
 
She should be done for inciting trouble. It was never ging to be a peaceful protest and anyone that was not being 'peaceful' as she clearly wasn't should contribute to putting things right. If i was confronted by an angry crowd that had already trashed the place then i'd be in self preservation mode too. Its clearly a complete farce that the officer is being charged with assult. He may of been overly aggressive but given the situation that she put him in then i think his actions were justified. hope she suffers as much as what she is putting the officer through.
 
brummie said:
he is there to keep order and sometimes that requires more than just standing there in an uniform
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which can be acheived by following procedure, that procedure does not involve backhanding someone. I think the fact that there is sufficient evidence to charge him with assault would suggest that he has gone beyond the call of duty here...
 
He is following his training almost to the letter there. he is overwhelmed (i.e. crowd control), he warns her first vocally and then with minor force (pushes her away and ok, the backhander is unfortunate, but it was a slip of his hand I am absolutely sure of it, and it wasnt so hard she didnt go straight back at him), shes comes back, is still in his face, so he takes one sharp short shot to her upper thigh. It's very painful and will drop you (as you saw) but usually leaves nothing but a bruise and causes a dead leg.

Sure the situation could have been dealt without him doing it, but when you're in that situation as an officer tasked with maintaining the general peace (note this does not mean individual cases of violence and disrupt can't happen), I can imagine you fall back on your training to the letter.

As Fox said on page one, this sort of thing will lead to police officers feeling like our teachers do, unempowered and unable to maintain order. When the police no longer can maintain order, what then? We might all be reasonably peacable people, there are many out there who are not and genuinely woul love nothing more than being able to loot and destroy for fun...

This officer did very little wrong in a tough situation. Perhaps he needs to be re-affirmed in how quickly he should use his available weapons, but suspended? Not at all.
 
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Abraham said:
which can be acheived by following procedure, that procedure does not involve backhanding someone. I think the fact that there is sufficient evidence to charge him with assault would suggest that he has gone beyond the call of duty here...
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No, he is innocent until proven guilty. His charge is probably something which is inevitable due to the nature of the incident.
 
Dj_Jestar said:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7999277.stm

I'm watching that, and I'm seeing some Police Officers being riled by many protesters. There's lots of commotion going on, and some protesters being very persistent about being in the faces of the Police officers.

Frankly, I think she deserved that slap, and then the baton for not learning her lesson from the slap.
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She may have deserved it in the eyes of the 'ordinary man', but the fact remains that the Police Officer has commited an assault for which he should rightly be investigated and prosecuted if appropriate.

The Police must never themselves be above the law.
 
Gilly said:
Where was the force she used? Where was the threat she posed? Where was her weapon?

If a trained male cannot deal with a mouthy female without resorting to backhanding them across the face and then taking a baton to them then they shouldn't be in the position they are. He's there to keep order, not to beat undeserving people.
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Totally agree m8
 
brummie said:
No, he is innocent until proven guilty. His charge is probably something which is inevitable due to the nature of the incident.
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I didn't say he was guilty, however he had two charges brought against him, the other was dropped due to insufficient evidence, therefore CPS clearly think there is sufficient evidence to prosecute him for this. We can await the result of the trial, but I think he's going to be very lucky to get a not guilty verdict.
 
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