TURBO-CHARGING - Is the Future! :)

Virdi · 12 Oct 2009 at 07:59

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8266975.stm

Bear · 12 Oct 2009 at 08:19

What a rubbish article. It makes out that a turbo was meant for boy racer cars only but the whole point of them was to make similar outputs on small engines to larger NA engines to save fuel. It looks like they have discovered the whole point of them all over again.

gurusan · 12 Oct 2009 at 08:24

more boosted cars yay

triple scroll turbo? Never seen one of those before....

LizardKing · 12 Oct 2009 at 08:27

I thought they only reason they were not more widespreadly used was reliability?

But now they can re brand them with a green sticker on it, its all go go go jumping on the bandwagon!

Dogbreath · 12 Oct 2009 at 08:29

Bear said:
What a rubbish article. It makes out that a turbo was meant for boy racer cars only but the whole point of them was to make similar outputs on small engines to larger NA engines to save fuel.

You need to brush up on your history, the turbochargers first production application was on aircraft engines in the early 30's to overcome power loss at high altitudes. The first automotive uses were to improve performance of already large engines; it's use to improve overall efficiency is a relatively recent innovation.

Firestar_3x · 12 Oct 2009 at 08:32

First came around in Ships iirc.

I was under the impression Supercharged plane engines are more commonplace in the 1930 - 40's?

Biohazard · 12 Oct 2009 at 08:32

Like this is anything new?

Smart Roadster and loads of other stuff like Nissan Figaro etc. How olds that, hmmm 20 years or something.

BBC do my **** in.

Dogbreath · 12 Oct 2009 at 08:36

Firestar_3x said:
First came around in Ships iirc.

I was under the impression Supercharged plane engines are more commonplace in the 1930 - 40's?

They were, simply because the technology was better developed but that's the period when turbo's were first used in a production application.

aproctor · 12 Oct 2009 at 09:09

Firestar_3x said:
First came around in Ships iirc.

I was under the impression Supercharged plane engines are more commonplace in the 1930 - 40's?

Both were common but superchargers seemed to be preferred towards WW2.

spoonz · 12 Oct 2009 at 09:12

who are the main players in TC production? garrett?

Sounds like they in for big growth over next few years

saitrix · 12 Oct 2009 at 09:26

Think the main players are Garrett, Mitsubishi and KKK off the top of my head.

Firestar_3x · 12 Oct 2009 at 09:29

Borg Warner

bledd · 12 Oct 2009 at 09:34

Biohazard said:
Like this is anything new?

Smart Roadster and loads of other stuff like Nissan Figaro etc. How olds that, hmmm 20 years or something.

BBC do my **** in.

no swear word I can think of makes sense in that context

cm1179 · 12 Oct 2009 at 09:36

i thought supercharging was a more efficient and smoother method?

Django x2 · 12 Oct 2009 at 09:37

/buys shares

Django x2 · 12 Oct 2009 at 09:38

cm1179 said:
i thought supercharging was a more efficient and smoother method?

Hmm, higher cost, and much higher bills if something does go pop. IIRC

Biohazard · 12 Oct 2009 at 09:58

bledd. said:
no swear word I can think of makes sense in that context

Breast's, with an apostrophe.

gord · 12 Oct 2009 at 10:35

Biohazard said:
Breast's, with an apostrophe.

****?

bledd · 12 Oct 2009 at 10:40

ahh, didn't realise it was on the auto filter

Lum · 12 Oct 2009 at 10:42

cm1179 said:
i thought supercharging was a more efficient and smoother method?

Smoother yes, but more efficient no.

Some of the power output of your engine is wasted in driving out the exhaust gases and pushing them down the pipe. A turbo is powered by a fan in this pipe that is spun as the gasses go past, putting only a little extra load on the engine (the gasses had to go that way anyway). A supercharger is powered by a belt off the crank pulley and thus represents a constant additional load on the engine.

I wonder if high flow cats will become standard next. A little thought about fact is that cats also reduce efficiency by making it harder to push the exhaust gasses through them. If your car lives on the motorway, a de-cat is probably better for the environment than a catted car IMO.