At the moment the things can not store any more data on them. It is not compulsory and there are no plans to force it on you. it's a complete over reaction due to a lack of understanding of the technology and a utter fear of the state. Even though the technology has nothing to do with it and if the laws changed to allow what you suggest. The technology would be the least of your problems.
RFID chips, here they come!
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At the moment the things can not store any more data on them. It is not compulsory and there are no plans to force it on you. it's a complete over reaction due to a lack of understanding of the technology and a utter fear of the state. Even though the technology has nothing to do with it and if the laws changed to allow what you suggest. The technology would be the least of your problems.
Says whom?
due to how the technology works.
Um? Are you an expert on RFID technology?
I agree.
But that doesn't mean you should get up tight about a technology you obviously do not understand and that to change practices you need a drastic change in law (not technology) and the fact it isn't available and isn't being forced on you.
not at all.
A typical Rfid holds 2kb of data.
http://www.rfidjournal.com/faq/18/66
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Open up Notepad.
Paste this text into it (don't worry I made it up, hopefully there isn't anyone with the same details)
John Smith
12/12/1950
Unemployed
Member of the Liberal Party
HIV+
GAY
Organised student protest in 1967
resides 1 Acacia Avenue, Blackpool
Now save the file. Then click properties, I don't know about your computer but it tells me that the file takes up 147 bytes of information. You still think you can only store a serial number in that 2kb? (oh and bear in mind thats without data compression algorithms.)
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4KB in note pad
they are designed as a bar code replacement. even if they store more info. It is still does not change anything and does not confirm any of your fears. your fears need a fundamental change in law and has nothing to do with the technology.
they are designed as a bar code replacement. even if they store more info. It is still does not change anything and does not confirm any of your fears. your fears need a fundamental change in law and has nothing to do with the technology.
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Yes 4 kb on disk (thats probably due to the file format of Windows NTFS etc), but the amount of data is 147 bytes.
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...and how do you suppose the data is stored on an RFID chip?
Your argument is nonsense regardless. Whether RFID chips were used for legitimate or nefarious purposes, storing actual data on the chip as opposed to just a unique identifying number (i.e. serial number) that can be looked up on an external database is a daft and inefficient method.
Moot.
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I haven't any idea how the data is encoded into the chip, but it probably doen't use the windows file system. I wasn't arguing about what they put on the chip, someone else came up with the fact that the chips only hold 2kb of data. What I was trying to show is that can actually be quite a bit of personal information.
I will agree it would be stupid to hold any personal information - far better to hold a serial number that when read identifies you.
I will agree it would be stupid to hold any personal information - far better to hold a serial number that when read identifies you.
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Ignoring the saize, how does it have bearings on any thing.
a) it is not forced
b) if it's easily scanned you can read what is on it and check
c) it has extremely useful benefits
D) to do any of the scaremongering stuff you are saying, requires a massive change in law. It has no impact on the technology and is no way linked.
tinfoil hat
First this, then the CHIP then the persuadertron
/tinfoil hat
Probably a good thing for people with serious/uncommon illness. Doesn't really effect me either way the strangest thing in my medical and biological history is being left handed with an outie belly button (not that they'd be noted in the chip), what are they going to do with that? Put me in a room and laugh as they make me cut up stuff with right handed scissors with my left hand
. If someone for some strange reason really wants to find out your medical history for a non treatment releated reason not having a little chip inside of you isnt going to stop them.
First this, then the CHIP then the persuadertron
/tinfoil hat
Probably a good thing for people with serious/uncommon illness. Doesn't really effect me either way the strangest thing in my medical and biological history is being left handed with an outie belly button (not that they'd be noted in the chip), what are they going to do with that? Put me in a room and laugh as they make me cut up stuff with right handed scissors with my left hand
. If someone for some strange reason really wants to find out your medical history for a non treatment releated reason not having a little chip inside of you isnt going to stop them.
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My point is that we will never have to submit to mandatory subdermal RFID implantation. If we do, then we'll have far bigger problems on our hands than just RFID tags.
Some one sprouting a load of rubbish. The idea is no different to debit/credit cards. Just like they could close your bank account. Just like your bank holds all your financial records.
Rofl how do you get suckered into this BS.
In a sense yes we are already controlled to a fair degree but it could get worse if any of this is true.
How nothing he says in the first few minutes. Is any different to the current system. As well as no evidence to back it up.
Are they really that easy to read tho?
I have experience of RFID in 3 situations:
1) Shops - they need huge sensors at the doors because of the range they are trying to read at (up to 2 metres)
2) Ski pass - much smaller sensor because the pass is designed to be read at close range (through jacket pocket) but it still takes a fair bit of getting used to before you are able to get the scanner to read your card at every attempt.
3) Door access - have to physically touch the card against the door to make is scan.
So you either need a large antenna or very close range to read these tags?
(This is not fact, just my experience of RFID)