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NEW Xonar Essence ST 7.1 Channel Sound Card - AV100 ...
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No looking back now, a 7520 DAC would have ended up costing around £190 after postage and connections. After reading AV forums and Head-fi forums i've finally went for it.

I might be able to make back £15 or £20 on my audigy too.

Just need to get me a decent quality phono - phono connection. Any ideas?
 
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Now go and enjoy some music :)
 
X-Factor destroyed that for me :'( I love the John Cale version & when I find myself working away humming the tune someone says "ahh I hate that show".....No Sh!t Sherlock.

Enjoying some Cohen atm, some say depressing, I actually find him quite "fun". The Future album might not be his best but it sounds great lol.
 
Off topic but is this suggesting to run headphone out to my amp (3.5mm - phono) instead of phono - phono?

'Out of curiosity I connected the amplifier to the card’s headphones output instead of its line output and found the sound to be much more transparent and clear! This impression was subsequently reconfirmed: the line output, implemented with RCA rather than with ordinary mini-jack connectors, delivered a somewhat turbid sound. It does not steal any details and does not spoil the sound scene, but it sounds somewhat sluggishly and makes the imaginable sound sources, especially high-frequency ones, somewhat muddy'

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/multimedia/display/asus-xonar-essence-stx_5.html
 
Doesnt matter, looks like ive found my answer -

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Why is the headphone out so much more livelier then the line out?

edit: to answer myself more distortion it seems

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If your using to to drive another amplifer YES. Your overdriving the next device. It would raise the SNR and add distortion for sure as you said.

If your connecting a set of phonee to the line out, they would sound duller if your cans are high impedance as the line out is low power compared to the headphone output.
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I'm confused, what's the line out?

The RCA outputs. They are what's called line outputs. They are within the industry standard for line level. Amps have line inputs and line outputs...etc. You would use these inputs and output for connecting up to other consumer gear such as CD players, receivers, EQ's..etc. The can amplifier is just that a output with more amplification for your headphones.

Note, There is consumer line level which you would deal with when connecting consumer gear as was mentioned. There is also another standard which deals with line leve of professional recording gear. That is not really involved in this situation...
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If you intend to use the built-in amp then you use the headphone out.
If you intend to use a dedicated amp then you use the line out (RCA outputs).

If you've got a dedicated amp, you usually don't need to plug an amp into an amplified port.

Find out more about your headphones and whether they "need" amplification.
If they do what is the minimum (ohms) required to drive them?

So long as the ST's built-in amp can output at that level (they should cover most cans), you'll be fine.
If you've got a dedicated amp & it's specced to cover your headphones, again you're good to go.
 
Quick question. I have some Beyer dynamic DT 880 250ohm (silver cans). Im currently using an XFI Fatality Pro. Would a Xonar STX be an improvement and if it is would i need a headphone amp?
 
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