The all encompassing BNP thread - keep all crap in here.

[LabR@t]

Cheers for making it abundantly clear that you are logically impaired and that your arguments are of negligible worth.

why? because I believe that religion is a pack of lies? to keep the stupid in check.

 

[G1BB0]

colour/race/creed/religion has nothing to do with this argument btw folks

its about standing up for Britain as a democracy, regardless of the party, its policies or history... if it was, all of them would be held in contempt!

I feel this does illustrate the current divide in the UK and strong feeling with regards the current government, immigration and the potential solutions or lack of!

 

[Vonhelmet]

Hmmm so pictures of Muslims in the UK with crazy slogons is responded with pictures of Americans?

Try find some white Christians from the UK spouting that crap please

Christian Voice are quite vocal on the gay issue if that helps.

 

[LabR@t]

No, I'm being factual. The vast majority of working class and benefit class individuals in the UK are White British. This is not surprising given that they make up nearly 90% of the population. Targeting only immigrants (of any generation, remember the BNP work by the 'ethnic origin rule', not by whether the individual was born in the UK or not) as a problem with the benefit system is like worrying about the washer fluid in the car running out when the car itself is on fire, and about as sensible.

Proof!

 

[deuse]

So how do you feel about these pictures?


SNIP(the pics)
Judging an entire religion by the views of a small minority of nutjobs is rarely a good idea.

Men dressed up as women.

 

[Vonhelmet]

why? because I believe that religion is a pack of lies? to keep the stupid in check.

You can believe what you like, but statements like "religion is the root of all evil" are hilariously stupid.

 

[Tefal]

Hmmm so pictures of Muslims in the UK with crazy slogons is responded with pictures of Americans?

Try find some white Christians from the UK spouting that crap please

1) only 1 of the 3 pictures he posted seemed to be in British.

2) And as DD so often likes claim those Muslims in those pictures aren't British

 

[LabR@t]

You can believe what you like, but statements like "religion is the root of all evil" are hilariously stupid.

only if you take the word evil to have a religious connotation it has others.

Main Entry: evil
Part of Speech: noun
Definition: badness, immorality; disaster
Synonyms: affliction, baseness, blow, calamity, catastrophe, corruption, crime, criminality, curse, debauchery, depravity, devilry, diablerie, diabolism, harm, hatred, heinousness, hurt, ill, impiety, indecency, infamy, iniquity, injury, knavery, lewdness, licentiousness, looseness, malevolence, malignity, meanness, mischief, misery, misfortune, obscenity, outrage, pain, perversity, ruin, sin, sinfulness, sorrow, suffering, turpitude, vice, viciousness, vileness, villainy, wickedness, woe, wrong, wrongdoing

Religion has caused more wars than any other reason in the history of this planet.

 

[Dolph]

Proof

Do you really need me to prove that a group that makes up nearly 90% of the country will have the highest number of people (note, not percentage) in low paid employment and claiming benefits?

http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?id=462

If 5% of White Britons are economically inactive, and they make up 86% of the population, then the unemployment rates in the other areas are utterly irrelevant (even if they are higher) to the fact that the highest number (again note, NOT percentage) of benefit claimants are white britons.

This is exactly what I mean about BNP supporters being utterly unable to understand or accept evidence...

 

[Dolph]

it's lovely how you echo the same sentiments of the religious extremists you dislike so much

Although sadly like the antifascist thugs, no doubt the irony of your views is lost on you.

I'm also admiring how anti-british this chap is, given that we are a nation with a very strong christian tradition...

 

[G1BB0]

Dolph, surely the majority should be white British, we are predominantly a white British nation after all?

as were there predeccessors who I am sure the majority paid taxes to enable those in the current economic environment to be catered for!

ITS N O T ROCKET SCIENCE

 

[LabR@t]

what % of other groups work in low paid unemployment or are claim?

You can make every appear with facts and figures, its a common trick used.

 

[Vonhelmet]

only if you take the word evil to have a religious connotation it has others.

What does that mean?

Religion has caused more wars than any other reason in the history of this planet.

Proof please.

Ps it hasn't, so you'll struggle!

 

[Iraklis F.C.]

Religion has caused more wars than any other reason in the history of this planet.

maybe greed/money has caused more wars?

 

[leaskovski]

lol! Just saw the 10 o'clock news, and by god that was funny! Dimwitted dodars outside BBC, they just dont understand the ironing do they! lol

 

[Hooa]

Christian Voice are quite vocal on the gay issue if that helps.

I seriously was referring to 'Pray for dead Soldiers' ect... the abundance of photography with very similar stuff from extremist Islam in the UK is mad! Now extremist Christians in the UK hmmm wheres all the pics?

 

[deuse]

Do you really need me to prove that a group that makes up nearly 90% of the country will have the highest number of people (note, not percentage) in low paid employment and claiming benefits?

http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?id=462

If 5% of White Britons are economically inactive, and they make up 86% of the population, then the unemployment rates in the other areas are utterly irrelevant (even if they are higher) to the fact that the highest number (again note, NOT percentage) of benefit claimants are white britons.

This is exactly what I mean about BNP supporters being utterly unable to understand or accept evidence...

I wont use the 2001 report you used because it WAY out of date.
But your second one says
"In 2004 Pakistani women had the highest unemployment rates in Great Britain, at 20 per cent."
"The unemployment rate for Indian men (7 per cent) was similar to those for White British or White Irish men.
"
"In 2004 Bangladeshi and Pakistani women had the highest working-age economic inactivity rates in Great Britain (75 per cent and 69 per cent respectively)."


And who said I supported them? Yes I have used them before for my own ends

 

[LabR@t]

I'm also admiring how anti-british this chap is, given that we are a nation with a very strong christian tradition...

yes it has and I'm happy for that to stay, but I can tell you the number of people who attend church and are active Christians has dropped dramatically over the last 500 years its called civilization and progress.

 

[Dolph]

Dolph, surely the majority should be white British, we are predominantly a white British nation after all?

as were there predeccessors who I am sure the majority paid taxes to enable those in the current econimic environment to be catered for!

You want to tackle the benefit problem, you need to be looking at all claimants, not an insignificant proportion of them.

Also why does skin colour matter?

And why should skin colour have any bearing on the ability to claim state aid?

The systems and country are not failing because of immigrants, they are failing because of flawed internal processes and a culture of entitlement rather than responsibility. The biggest group that demonstrates this is also the group with a proportionally higher number of BNP supporters, further demonstrating the outright inability to accept responsibility for their own lives.

 

[Vonhelmet]

Dolph, surely the majority should be white British, we are predominantly a white British nation after all?

as were there predeccessors who I am sure the majority paid taxes to enable those in the current econimic environment to be catered for!

Ah, so white British people are ok? That was close. I guess my migrant mum can stay on account of her being a white citizen.