crazy flu/pnemonia pandemic in ukraine

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Swine flu fear grips Ukraine as death toll dramatically rises

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/281408



Ukraine residents have begun panic-buying face masks and influenza medicines as the death toll from the country's swine flu epidemic rises dramatically in 24 hours.
The President of Ukraine, Viktor Yushchenko, announced to the country today that the death toll from the H1N1 virus has risen to 50, a dramatic rise from his announcement twenty-hours previously when he'd announced that the toll was 11. The swine flu epidemic appears to be spreading rapidly in Ukraine with latest figures suggesting that 150,000 people are ill with the virus.

This is pretty serious, and not being reported by cnn/bbc/sky etc
 
WHO statement

Pandemic (H1N1) 2009, Ukraine

On 28 October 2009, the Ministry of Health of the Ukraine informed WHO, through its Country Office in Ukraine, about an unusually high level of activity of acute respiratory illness in the western part of the country, associated with an increased number of hospital admissions and fatalities.

On 30 October 2009, the Ministry of Health of the Ukraine announced the confirmation of pandemic (H1N1) 2009 virus infection by RT-PCR in eleven out of 30 samples obtained from patients presenting with acute respiratory illness in two of the most affected regions. Tests were performed in two laboratories in Kyiv, including the National Influenza Centre. Confirmatory tests will be performed at one of the WHO Collaborating Centres for Influenza.

The situation is quickly changing with increasingly high levels of acute respiratory illness (ARI)/Influenza-like-illness (ILI) activity being observed in Ternopil, Lviv, Ivano-Frankivsk, and Chernivtsi regions. The higher levels of transmission in these regions corresponds to an increased number of hospital admissions and fatalities associated with severe manifestations of acute respiratory illness.

As of 30 October 2009, over 2,300 individuals have been admitted to hospital, including over 1,100 children. One hundred and thirty one (131) cases have required intensive care, including 32 children. As of 31 October 2009, a total of 38 fatalities associated with severe manifestations of ARI have been registered. Preliminary epidemiological data analysis indicates that severe cases and deaths primarily occur among previously healthy young adults aged 20 – 50 years. Fatal and severe cases are reported to have sought medical attention 5 to 7 days after onset of symptoms.

International experience of the (H1N1) 2009 pandemic to date, especially from the Southern Hemisphere, has shown that poor clinical outcomes are associated with delays in seeking health care and limited access to supportive care. In addition, this virus has also shown its ability to cause rapidly progressive overwhelming lung disease which is very difficult to treat.

http://www.who.int/csr/don/20091101/en/index.htm

This is pretty serious guys
 
When is swine flu likely to burn out and disappear? Could it be around for years?

Once it has done the rounds and the majority of the population has been exposed to it, new cases will decrease in number due to an increase in immunity. We will see a spike over winter lasting into next year, I imagine.
 
Amazing how quickly people forget history. The 1918 outbreak of Spanish 'flu, which killed millions globally first appeared as a mild illness before coming back with disastrous effect in an Autumn second wave.

There was a very good dramatisation on BBC4 about this and the work of Dr James Niven in Manchester during the pandemic. He managed to save thousands of live in Manchester - an unheard of hero if ever there was one.

What I found especially interesting was that the people's attitude to the initial mild illness was exactly the same as people's attitude to swine flu today.
 
Amazing how quickly people forget history. The 1918 outbreak of Spanish 'flu, which killed millions globally first appeared as a mild illness before coming back with disastrous effect in an Autumn second wave.

There was a very good dramatisation on BBC4 about this and the work of Dr James Niven in Manchester during the pandemic. He managed to save thousands of live in Manchester - an unheard of hero if ever there was one.

What I found especially interesting was that the people's attitude to the initial mild illness was exactly the same as people's attitude to swine flu today.

But didn't people die from an itchy arse back in 1918?
 
11 to 50 in 20 hours, cool, if it's over 200 deaths tomorrow and over a thousand by wednesday then it's serious - until then it's a headline.
 
Jesus, this would be an issue IF and ONLY IF the rest of those 150k people were on their way out, but they aren't, its 50 dead and 149,950 going on to survive and being immune to it. This isn't a rising percentage of deaths, and theres a limit to how many people can die when the MASSIVE MAJORITY ARE BECOMING IMMUNE after having it.

As for a variant of the pnuemonic plague, jesus h christ, firstly it was bubonic plague that was responsible for most deaths, the pneumonic version was primarily simply caused by bubonic plauge spreading to the lungs, the only real difference is the location. Its a bacteria and has utterly nothing to do with Swine Flu, pneumonia on its own, isn't pnuemonic plague, its just a basic infection(or one of several other infections) that also simply spread to the lungs and are reclassified essentially.

Scaremongering, like the OP, doesn't help anyone, stop making up added information and talking about how serious it is, when it isn't, more people will die from it, so, more people will die from the normal flu aswell, and from old age, cancer, car crashes, murders, etc, etc. People die every single day, thousands, and thousands every single day of your life 50 out of 150k is nothing.

THe most easily infected are those already ill, who are the most likely to die from secondary complications with swine flu, so the earliest to get it have the highest death rate, as more people get infected it will be the less immune comprimised and less likely to die.

Early numbers will always be the worst due to the nature of who gets infected first.
 
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