Illegal downloaders spend the most on music, says poll

orderoftheflame said:
I'd agree. With spotify, last.fm and youtube, why use illegal downloads as a "discovery" method.
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Spotify is current in the beta stage and not open to the general public. last.fm is only good for 30s of a track, or stumbling across a new artist. When you want to know whether an album is worth buying or not it's not much to go off, even if it plays one full track to you, there's still another dozen you have no idea of. Youtube has past it's peak in usefulness IMO, lots of videos are getting removed or their soundtrack disabled or aren't available to view because I'm in the wrong country. With roadrunner records, I can't watch any of their videos uploaded in the last year. Then there's the subject of quality which can make some tracks not even worth listening to IMO.

These services have only really gained popularity in the last few years, before that there weren't many other legit alternatives (only myspace that springs to mind). Not to mention the fact that these services can take time to add music and in some cases never will either due to licensing issues or not enough demand. If I were to go with the illegal method I could probabaly have the entire discography downloading in a few clicks and much better quality, if I were to use legal alternatives there's a chance it'll be much lower quality, or only a few songs, only 30s of a few select songs or nothing at all. It would be foolish to suggest there is no benefits to looking to illegal downloads.
 
the clue is in the name, there used to be little wooden telephone booths with a turntable, amp and headphones, and you could pick a record and listen to it before you bought it (or not).
 
I'm surprised the music industry is doing as well as it is considering the growth of so many competing industries in three decades. I mean 30 years ago what did people have to spent there disposable income on?
Music cassette tapes and drugs?

Hell in Ireland you couldn't get condoms let alone DVDs, computers, iPods, Playstations and games.

The first radio stations were pirate, Betamax was first brought in to copy and store TV shows. Hell what recording artist didn't have a mix tape at some stage. Thats piracy too!

The entire rock and roll industry built an image of sticking it to the man and taking drugs and sex and smashing guitars and wild unruly lifestyles. Suddenly the fans decided download music and they say "don't do that, we lose revenue".

Copyright needs to be revised as times have changed. The idea use to be to protect and reward innovation and the key word was temporarily because otherwise someone has a monopoly on that innovation. Now copyrights can last many many decades which defeats the whole purpose of copyright.

Fubsy said:
Whatever happened to listening booths?
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You simply can't compare listening booths and Grooveshark. One will have a few hundred songs the other is measured in millions. Music tastes are very diverse listening booths can barely cater to this. I have the HMV listening booths in mind.
 
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Dev2 said:
I'm surprised the music industry is doing as well as it is considering the growth of so many competing industries in three decades. I mean 30 years ago what did people have to spent there disposable income on?
Music cassette tapes and drugs?

Hell in Ireland you couldn't get condoms let alone DVDs, computers, iPods, Playstations and games.

The first radio stations were pirate, Betamax was first brought in to copy and store TV shows. Hell what recording artist didn't have a mix tape at some stage. Thats piracy too!

The entire rock and roll industry built an image of sticking it to the man and taking drugs and sex and smashing guitars and wild unruly lifestyles. Suddenly the fans decided download music and they say "don't do that, we lose revenue".

Copyright needs to be revised as times have changed. The idea use to be to protect and reward innovation and the key word was temporarily because otherwise someone has a monopoly on that innovation. Now copyrights can last many many decades which defeats the whole purpose of copyright.



You simply can't compare listening booths and Grooveshark. One will have a few hundred songs the other is measured in millions. Music tastes are very diverse listening booths can barely cater to this. I have the HMV listening booths in mind.
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Huh? *shakes head*

The pirate stations were in response to the already established state owned stations that refused to play anything other than burt bachharach and dead german classical composers.

Betamax/VHS in the home was just a trickle down effect from the professional industry taking their work home with them and building collections of footage of their family using pro equipment.
 
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dodgem said:
Err yes it does...

If you download songs by artist XYZ and like them then there is a chance you will buy an album of theirs. Of course, you might not, but there is a chance that you will. If you hadn't downloaded them, and hence never heard them then there is zero chance of you buying their album!

Makes sense to me anyway :cool:
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I think that only applies to a small number of people that pirate. Probably the ones more open to admitting that they illegally download.

I'm willing to bet that if your average pirate downloaded an album and liked it, they'd go back and download more albums from the same artist. :(
 
I think the future is some kind of subscription service (£200 a year or more) for unlimited streaming media to all equipment around a household, streaming mp3 players / phones, including music, television and film (with a slightly raised price for video games).

Now that would be excellent and I would certainly pay that price if not more.
 
Nitefly said:
I think the future is some kind of subscription service (£200 a year or more) for unlimited streaming media to all equipment around a household, streaming mp3 players / phones, including music, television and film (with a slightly raised price for video games).

Now that would be excellent and I would certainly pay that price if not more.
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I don't want streaming music. I can do that already, and I can download unlimited lossless music already, it's just that the music industry don't wish to take my money.
 
i spend a fortune on music and admittedly also download a fair bit

but i know more people who buy none at all and download or 'borrow' everything than i know people like me
 
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