After 691 Crimes, Offender is Given Freedom and a New Home

He will breach supervision in no time and will be sent to prison for breaching hopefully

no, he will have a kid then it will be seen as immoral to put him away thus letting him stay out even longer to bask in his freedom.

Life in prison for teenage stealing

Bringin' out my big guns!

what should they do?

have we got to a situation where if u commit that many crimes that you are beyond punishment and therefore put back into society? that does not send a strong enough message imo.
 
Why not? It's up to you what choices you make. Or was he not accountable for his actions, in which case why is he allowed out with other members of the general public?

So everyone is born into the same circumstance with the same rational viewpoints and the same upbringing?

You honestly think that there is zero variation when it comes to how a person's life develops and the situations that affect the choices they make?

"That's not a good arguement." Great post. I wish I could just type that whenever I disagreed with a point of view. :rolleyes:

Well it clearly isn't a good argument. You were "12 once" is pretty vague and seems to suggest that everyone when they're 12 has some sort of protected life. Also, the key point is that he started stealing when he was 12. 12.

Obviously its become completely ingrained into his life before he was even an adult.
 
691 offences rather suggests he's a sociopath.

To me, it suggests that either he's crap at thieving or he's "admitted" to many crimes he didn't commit so that the police can improve their figures and he's been given lenient treatment in exchange for that.
 
we dont care if he gets rehabilitated, he should be punished

And therein lies the problem with the modern justice system, or at least the manner in which people want it to function. It's not there to improve society, it's there to make people feel better through revenge.
 
well what is the function of jail in the modern world?

remove someone from society so they can no longer harm society?

any kind of rehabilitation is secondary imo.

unfortunately what happens is, the court looks to guarantee rehab/reform BEFORE the person goes to prison?! how does that work? how do they know the person wants to be rehabilitated?

its so completely backward, like i suspect your view to be on the matter, if you are insinuating that prison sentances should primarily be for anything other than punishment/removal from society?
 
well if he steals each week for 6 years doing 2 thefts a week...it shows a continous pattern of lack of morals, disdain for his neighbour and ultimately a total lack of remorse.
 
Why would you steal from churches? They've got nothing worth stealing "Mate, you wanna buy a bible, I won it in a raffle" know what I mean.
What are you going to nick from a church?
 
Why would you steal from churches? They've got nothing worth stealing "Mate, you wanna buy a bible, I won it in a raffle" know what I mean.
What are you going to nick from a church?

all the gold and silver they have?:confused:

and the lead on the roof.
 
So everyone is born into the same circumstance with the same rational viewpoints and the same upbringing?

You honestly think that there is zero variation when it comes to how a person's life develops and the situations that affect the choices they make?

What are you going on about?

So your saying that if someone was born into a life where his father and mother were physcopaths and went around killing people and he followed by doing the same thing that he would be right to do so? As it was all he had known, hurting other people would be absolutely fine?

I admit that it's a pretty extreme example but it's the same kind of thing.

It's got nothing to do with variation, it's about right and wrong and breaking the law means he should be punished. I'm not suggesting he gets life imprisionment or anything that extreme, but punishment and rehabilitation is what he should get, not a new home with everything paid for for both him and his girlfriend.

Obviously its become completely ingrained into his life before he was even an adult

Of course, that makes it right. :rolleyes:
 
What are you going on about?

So your saying that if someone was born into a life where his father and mother were physcopaths and went around killing people and he followed by doing the same thing that he would be right to do so? As it was all he had known, hurting other people would be absolutely fine?

I admit that it's a pretty extreme example but it's the same kind of thing.

It's got nothing to do with variation, it's about right and wrong and breaking the law means he should be punished. I'm not suggesting he gets life imprisionment or anything that extreme, but punishment and rehabilitation is what he should get, not a new home with everything paid for for both him and his girlfriend.



Of course, that makes it right. :rolleyes:

If it's all he's ever known, how can he know to do any better?
 
Originally Posted by vonhelmet
If it's all he's ever known, how can he know to do any better?

then he needs to learn that doing bad, illegal things result in punishment...not reward.

otherwise, how can he know anything else and then what is his incentive to not be a bad person?
 
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