100hz 720p VS 50hz 1080p

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Hi all

To cut a long story short my parents old LG TV broke and they have been given around £500 vouchers to purchase a new one - The only catch it has to be from the popular high street shop which i can't name, however the shop is a type of indian food - i.e a korma is one :p

I have seen 2 tv's that i think would be ok.

Panasonic VIERA TXP37X10B 37” HD Ready Plasma TV
This one is plasma 720p but 100HZ for £549.00

Sony KDL37V5500 37" 1080p LCD TV
This one is LCD 1080P but 50hz. £591.70

Now most of the TV's use will be watching normal SD however i am buying them a Blu-ray player for xmas and my dad loves his action films so it will start to be used for HD a lot more.

What would be best to go for?

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I've just noticed this:
LG 37LH4000 37" 1080p LCD TV £559.97
1080P and 100hz - However i'm not sure what the picture quality is like on the LG's?
 
IMO - plasma is better then LCD for watching TV
better viewing angles
looks closer to a CRT in terms of how the image looks
You don't need 1080p, especially at 37"
You say most will be SD sources. If you are talking things like digi sky boxes and the like, then most folk agree that a 720p plasma will look better than any LCD at 720 or 1080. Mot folk agree that 720p plasma looks better than 1080p for SD, as well.
Bluray will still look awesome.
I bought one. (last years model, last year, 42" for 599, from the same place)
 
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True, I do agree with all your points as i have the PX80 37" so I know that they can look good, i've just never compared it to a 1080p LCD
 
Go for the Sony. The Panasonic is not actually genuine 100Hz.

You may as well get the benefit of 1080p as both sets will be the same when it comes to motion. They both judder like buggery. If they can stretch their budget the KDL37W5500 would be an excellent choice due to its genuine 100Hz capability.
 
Cobra-UK said:
Go for the Sony. The Panasonic is not actually genuine 100Hz.

You may as well get the benefit of 1080p as both sets will be the same when it comes to motion. They both judder like buggery. If they can stretch their budget the KDL37W5500 would be an excellent choice due to its genuine 100Hz capability.
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100hz doesn't matter. Really, it doesn't. The panny plasmas don't judder like buggery (at least all the ones I have seen although I admit I've not seen these newer models yet)
 
Honestly.

Go into a showroom and compare these side by side.

KDLxxV5500
TXPxxX10
KDLxxW5500

You will genuinely see those models (Except the W series) judder with movement.
 
Regardless of whether the pictures appear smoother (or whatever you want to call it) you still don't need 100Hz, and in terms of LCD what does 100Hz actually mean, given that LCDs don't actually refresh?

This Hz thing is the TV guys next move after all the outlandish contrast claims like 1 billion:1 contrast ratio* (*under lab conditions, etc) It's all just number bollax.

To the OP - it seems like you have friends with a plasma? your mind should already be made up! It all comes down to personal preference at the end of the day. I like plasmas better than lcd for watching TV. If I had some other use for a diplay I would look at the alternatives and come to a perhaps a different conclusion. ALSO: 90% of the 'difference' in what people 'see' and 'perceive' as the 'quality' of a TV set, be it plasma, CRT, or LCD is down to how the set is configured, ambient lighting, and seating position - most TVS i see in peoples homes are configured Far to bright, far too contrasty and wayy to much sharpening. Conequently most digital TV programes look like the actors are orange, blinding you in a sea of MPEG artifacts.
 
actually no it isnt, 100hz can make a profound difference but it isnt always a positive difference - my friends samsung lcd is so smooth sometimes that at times it can seem totally unnatural, and it also produces weird artifacts like ghosting with quick movements, ive seen this on newer sony lcd's as well. i remember specifically watching a 400hz sony lcd demo and i was like :eek:, the motion was unbelievable but in this scene was a man turning the pages of a book while the camera panned around. Whilst the camera movement was probably the smoothest video i'd ever seen on any display, the pages of the book and even his hand movement where ghosting to hell and back.


.....to say 100hz is a marketing gimmick shows a complete lack of understanding of the subject.
 
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james.miller said:
actually no it isnt, 100hz can make a profound difference but it isnt always a positive difference - my friends samsung lcd is so smooth sometimes that at times it can seem totally unnatural, and it also produces weird artifacts like ghosting with quick movements, ive seen this on newer sony lcd's as well.


to say 100hz is a marketing gimmick shows a complete lack of understanding of the subject.
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I'm not saying it's a marketing gimmick - i'm saying someone looking to buy a TV should just buy one. If it's 100Hz or whatever it doesn't matter. there's more important things to be worrying about. basically if it has to be asked it doesn't matter - if you know specifically what your inputs are and the requirements you have from a set then it will probabl matter - for just watchign regular TV is doesn't - to these folk The bigger number is better. Witness the number of people that think they are watching HD on their new Flat screen tvs, but just plug the digibox in with a Scart cable.. unless you know it matters, it doesn't
 
whitecrook said:
I'm not saying it's a marketing gimmick - i'm saying someone looking to buy a TV should just buy one. If it's 100Hz or whatever it doesn't matter.
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incorrect, joe public may see both side by side and prefer a 100hz set. ergo it does matter. The only way it wouldnt matter was if it didnt actually do anything....but it does.

for just watchign regular TV is doesn't
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That's where it probably makes the biggest difference as it goes...

This is coming for a 50pz80b non 100hz owner by the way, i cant stand this frame-inserting motion smoothing mess, but some people do prefer it, much like my friend does and he really REALLY isnt in to technology.
 
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james.miller said:
incorrect, joe public may see both side by side and prefer a 100hz set. ergo it does matter.
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ok


That's where it probably makes the biggest difference as it goes...
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it might make a big difference there but I still say it doesn't matter.(for most people)

This is coming for a 50pz80b non 100hz owner by the way, i cant stand this frame-inserting motion smoothing mess, but some people do prefer it, much like my friend does and he really REALLY isnt in to technology.
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OK. Personally I hate all the picture post processing crap that ALL the TVs I've seen do it, fail at some point. There's always glitches and ghosts and thing like you said above. I prefer my picture more 'pure' Some like it processed to hell and back. I'd rather have a 'OMG NOES' 50hz picture than a 1000Hz glitchy jumpy picture, even if the credits now scroll ultra smooth on eastenders.


personal preference.
 
If you had identical sets side by side where the only difference was the resolution, then I would eat my face through my earlobe if you could actually tell the difference between them at normal viewing distance (say 8ft).

Forget about spec sheets especially contrast, 100hz, 600hz, with 1080p being the last thing you should worry about when choosing a tv (unless you sit really close to see teh pixels on a 720p or want a pc monitor)
 
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