Kaspersky 2010 excessive internet usage

I saw the same thing and wasn't sure what was going on. Thought it might be "registering" (for want of a better word) your net usage twice because it runs everything through it?

Yes AFAIK that's the reason as pretty much all internet access is ported through it. If you look at your internet browser usage on the network monitor it will be fairly similar.
If your ISP provides a usage monitor you will see that the amount used doesn't include the Kaspersky figure.
 
Thanks for the responses.

I assume you have tried reinstalling Kaspersky?

I really can't think what it could possibly be doing to be sending and downloading data unless it's doing some sort of backup of everything you have. I would disable it to be on the safe side until you can figure this out. Who knows what it's actually downloading or uploading

It first happened on the Win7 RC, which was when I 'upgraded' to 2010; I've since reinstalled with the RTM but still got the problem. I think anything it wanted to steal it could've by now, disabling it now would just be shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted :p

I saw the same thing and wasn't sure what was going on. Thought it might be "registering" (for want of a better word) your net usage twice because it runs everything through it?

I wondered about this because often it does download just a bit over what everything else downloads put together, but it didn't stop when I disabled it (did stop on program exit) and occasionally it's silly usage like accounting for 90%ish of data, like yesterday.

Me too, I dumped it in favour of MSE, much faster browsing, and much faster starup and shutdown, my only issue now is adverts, Kaspersky did a good job of blocking adverts.

I posted in the main AV thread about MSE. While I like it in principle, I can't use it because when scanning large archives (50GB odd) RAM usage seems to climb through the roof - using 98%ish of 8GB - making my computer dog slow for hours. Also I'm not sure if it is the large archives, it's just a suspicion. Adverts aren't a problem though as I have Adblock Plus :D

Miniyazz - I use KIS 2010 and do not have any problems like you have, in fact it is a lot less intrusive than using an earlier version with Vista.
Why don't you uninstall KIS and install MSE for a while to check.
Are you running a wireless link? - is somebody outside hooked into you?

It's definitely KIS causing the usage - on checking resource manager it shows network usage by process, and avp (KIS) is right up there at the top. I'm connected through a router and no internet sharing is set up so no-one can be connected through me AFAIK - they could be connected to me, theoretically, but the network usage pattern doesn't fit. Incidentally, my disk space isn't decreasing so the data isn't actually being stored.

I've just had a thought, though - I've looked at Resource Monitor again and it's currently d/ling at 150ish kb/sec, apparently, but it's writing to disk at around 1kb/sec, so I'm gonna keep an eye on disk writes so if it suddenly shoots up I might be able to pinpoint a file that's storing data, presumably before being overwritten. If it's being written to disk at all.

Where do you check to see your download/upload activity?

EDIT: Found it, mine is saying it downloaded 11gb and uploaded 2.7gb out of which KIS downloaded 5.4gb and uploaded 54mb

Why the hell would KIS download 5.4gb in a month?

That could be manageable - if it's downloading complete virus definition lists every night - I don't know how big they are but measured in MB wouldn't be too large, I don't suppose.

Have you though about installing some other network monitoring software to make sure that it is display the correct usage, I would expect Cisco or Linksys provide some decent software, weather free or not I don't know.

It might be worth uninstalling KIS and continuing to use the network monitor and see if there are any difference.

Ideally you woul dneed somehting that shows you which process is downloading/uploading.

Hope this helps.

Thanks, resource monitor is pretty handy with that sort of information :)

I have a feeling that other areas such as incoming emails etc contribute to this data collection total. Anything that comes through the network such as files from another computer will and should in theory add to the total.

Probably, but all my mail is web-based (gmail) and I don't transfer files over my network - I use it purely for internet. I'm still suspicious about it scanning everyone else's computers for files, but I think it would be pretty unlikely. Not least because I need a password to access anyone else's computers, and I'm fairly sure I haven't told Kaspersky it :p

Yes AFAIK that's the reason as pretty much all internet access is ported through it. If you look at your internet browser usage on the network monitor it will be fairly similar.
If your ISP provides a usage monitor you will see that the amount used doesn't include the Kaspersky figure.

Unfortunately my router doesn't have a usage monitor and I don't 'own' the internet connection (rented house) so can't get hold of the ISP. But I have started being throttled, which to me indicates my actual internet usage has gone up. Of course, that could be due to someone else in the house - I think one of them installed Spotify recently, for example.

I wouldn't ditch something like KIS just because your having a problem with it in favour of a free one like AVG or MSE which are good but not that bloody good.

Your network activity for KIS is shocking. My KIS figure last month was 7Gb which is shocking to me. There is a reason for this which I would love to know the answer on so I suggest you post on the Kaspersky forums which can be found HERE

I am sure there is a perfectly simple and good answer to it.

I'll try the KIS forums too, thanks.

Edit: Just searched the KIS forums - can't find any internet usage threads (just about to make one), but did find out why my WEI isn't working - the easiest solution generally may be to reinstall KIS 2009! :(
 
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OK, a little update:

Apparently the main reason is that the Network Monitor etc is picking up Kaspersky as downloading lots because it is scanning the network traffic. This is presumably compounded by my network setup - as I am essentially tunnelling out, I think the data is being scanned several times, and the recorded bandwidth used increasing several-fold. Finally, there is a known bug with recording the amount of data meaning that "traffic patterns can be counted twice".
So in reality, it seems my figures for internet usage are several times larger than the actual bandwidth used, and Kaspersky is 'wrongly' implicated in it!
 
Cheers for the update.

So have you found out the reason why your ISP is throttling you if its not Kaspersky?
 
So have you found out the reason why your ISP is throttling you if its not Kaspersky?

Yeah I'd like to know this also. I was fairly sure that the problem was related to the way Kaspersky presented it's information but the ISP thing suggested otherwise.
 
Is your ISP virginMedia?
Kaspersky does have the biggest slowdown effect on VirginMedia traffic.
Its wdiely reported in their forums since 2009 version (8.0.0.blah), are you certain you are being throttled and that Kaspersky isn't just slowing your connection?

Originally Posted by Hikari Kisugi
Me too, I dumped it in favour of MSE, much faster browsing, and much faster starup and shutdown, my only issue now is adverts, Kaspersky did a good job of blocking adverts.
I posted in the main AV thread about MSE. While I like it in principle, I can't use it because when scanning large archives (50GB odd) RAM usage seems to climb through the roof - using 98%ish of 8GB - making my computer dog slow for hours. Also I'm not sure if it is the large archives, it's just a suspicion. Adverts aren't a problem though as I have Adblock Plus

Unfortunately Kaspersky has an identical issue, that will not be resovled within the current build as it requires complete reworking of the product at a lower level. 2010 will not fix their memory and system slowdown on scanning large archives, and their suggestion is simply to switch off scanning of large archives within KIS settings for both ondemand and per user styles of scan.
This issue has been widely reported for 2 years on the KIS forums, but isn't a major issue as far as their buglist goes.
 
http://www.av-comparatives.org/

Kaspersky used to be amazing. It has since fallen a bit as far as raw detection rates are concerned :(

One other thing to note.
Kaspersky for the a-v comparatives chart request that the tests are run at settings higher than default. Other products for the most part reading the small print are run at their default settings, Kaspersky is run at higher settings than it installs with. Don't be in a false sence of secuirty over the protection it provides.

Its adblocking was good, I miss that.
 
So what would you recommend?

I have Kaspersky, I bought a 10 user 2 year license, which runs out tomorrow.

I was going to renew and have found they have discontinued the 10 user license and replaced it with a 5 user license that costs more than I paid two years ago for the 10 user - and that's with the discount for renewing!

To say I feel shafted is a bit of an understatement and am looking around for alternatives if they are around at the right price.

F-Secure doesn't seem to offer what I want and the reviews seem to be mixed.

Bitdefender sounds good but apparently has poor customer service if you need help.

Bit stuck really :(
 
Have to admit I personally don't like KIS at all. I switched over after having problems with ESET, what I hate about KIS is that make a change and it bloody nags you to say things are not running optimally, anybody have an idea how I can turn the nags off?
 
So what would you recommend?

I have Kaspersky, I bought a 10 user 2 year license, which runs out tomorrow.

I was going to renew and have found they have discontinued the 10 user license and replaced it with a 5 user license that costs more than I paid two years ago for the 10 user - and that's with the discount for renewing!

To say I feel shafted is a bit of an understatement and am looking around for alternatives if they are around at the right price.

F-Secure doesn't seem to offer what I want and the reviews seem to be mixed.

Bitdefender sounds good but apparently has poor customer service if you need help.

Bit stuck really :(

I've used ESET for about five years now, had a couple of issues in the past but they were easily sorted. To be honest though the only reason I still use it is for application control, if W7's firewall had this I'd probably just use that+Morro for AV when my license runs out. But Eset is really unintrusive and highly configurable so not a problem.
 
I ditched my 3 user license of KIS 2010 as I had nothing but problems with the 2010 update.
I now use Microsoft Security Essentials on my 3 PCs with Windows Firewall behind my router firewall and to my surprise my download speed increased by nearly 2Mb/s as a result!
 
KIS costs peanuts and I agree you get so much for very little cost. I know a lot of people have problems with it just like I had so much bother with ESET. Everybody prefers different software and everybodys systems are different so some antivirus software will work better or worse on others.

BTW, has anybody heard much about VIPRE? I am starting to hear it mentioned a lot now and I might even test it out.
 
Yeah I'd like to know this also. I was fairly sure that the problem was related to the way Kaspersky presented it's information but the ISP thing suggested otherwise.

Well it was definitely throttling a couple of times - it hasn't throttled today though, so it could've been coincidence. I'll be keeping an eye out and if it does it again, I'll post back - but it's hard to rule out other factors when there's other people using the internet connection!

Is your ISP virginMedia?
Kaspersky does have the biggest slowdown effect on VirginMedia traffic.
Its wdiely reported in their forums since 2009 version (8.0.0.blah), are you certain you are being throttled and that Kaspersky isn't just slowing your connection?

Unfortunately Kaspersky has an identical issue, that will not be resovled within the current build as it requires complete reworking of the product at a lower level. 2010 will not fix their memory and system slowdown on scanning large archives, and their suggestion is simply to switch off scanning of large archives within KIS settings for both ondemand and per user styles of scan.
This issue has been widely reported for 2 years on the KIS forums, but isn't a major issue as far as their buglist goes.

Yep Virgin Media; sure about the throttling thing too, but see above: other people using the internet so hard to be definitive about the cause! I noticed quite a few threads on KIS slowing down t'internet on their forums; I don't think that's happening to me as speedtest etc reports full download speeds (10Mbit), but I don't plan to try using the internet without it running to double-check! :p

Also I've not had any system slowdown problem with scanning the archives with KIS - and that's with all settings on max. Guess I must be lucky :D

One other thing to note.
Kaspersky for the a-v comparatives chart request that the tests are run at settings higher than default. Other products for the most part reading the small print are run at their default settings, Kaspersky is run at higher settings than it installs with. Don't be in a false sence of secuirty over the protection it provides.

Its adblocking was good, I miss that.

I stuck all settings on max for the hell of it, lol.

Have to admit I personally don't like KIS at all. I switched over after having problems with ESET, what I hate about KIS is that make a change and it bloody nags you to say things are not running optimally, anybody have an idea how I can turn the nags off?

Hmm I don't know how to change that within the program; on installation there's an option on how interactive you want the program to be. I now always choose the 'default' option rather than 'advanced' or whatever it is there because of the overly cautious popups.
 
Thanks for the post guys.

Regarding the 20% offer, I've been offered 30% off for renewing, it still seems expensive to me, renewing a 5 user license shouldn't be more expensive than purchasing a 10 user license (which is now discontinued)...ah well it seems to be the cheapest one on the market compared to Esat and Bitdefender.

I looked into Vipre, the general consensus I read from reviews was that it has potential but still needs to be developed to perform as well as the others, that was the initial reviews however, it could have matured since then.
 
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