Decided on a 120d

[MikeHiow]

What like finding a PAS Pump from a similarly sized car from similar dates?

The Vectra depreciates for mostly different reasons to the BMW. But for the record, my VXR appreciated shortly after I bought it, I can sell it now for what I paid for it, and I'll be able to sell it next year with little loss.

 

[Gaygle]

What like finding a PAS Pump from a similarly sized car from similar dates?

Why are you still harping on about old car's and their power steering pumps?

If you realllly want to continue, may i suggest you compare prices on car parts of a more modern era rather than comparing BMW 1988 PAS pumps with 1988 Vauxhall ones.

 

[MarkDavis]

Its not irrelevant at all, it's an example of BMW parts prices.

But you're comparing apples to oranges.

I thought this thread was about a 3/4 year old, 40k 120d. The PAS pump isn't going to fail on one of those anytime soon. They're also not known to have any major component weaknesses.

Yet you've weedled out a million year old, mega mileage, old shape 518i from two generations ago. How is that relevant to a 120d?

Surely, it would be better to fit out the cost of a PAS pump on a 120d and the typical age mileage where this sort of part is likely to need to replacing. £500 over 12 years / 150,000 isn't much.

 

[MikeHiow]

You're missing the point entirely, I was using examples that I had experience of to demonstrate the costs of repairing a BMW, it doesn't need to be relevant to a 120d, regardless of the thread title.

Had I said "One thing that would always put me off owning a 120d is the maintenance and repair costs, though", then I could understand.

Yet again, all I was doing is expressing my interest and concerns in the Brand/1 Series after reading this thread, yet its been turned into a witch hunt, because I defamed the sacred BMW name :/

 

[mrk]

It's funny how a BMW thread turns into a fight with words thread.

Wait, no it's not funny at all!

 

[[TW]Fox]

Yet again, all I was doing is expressing my interest and concerns in the Brand/1 Series after reading this thread, yet its been turned into a witch hunt, because I defamed the sacred BMW name :/

Your 'experiences' related to a car introduced in 1988! Seriously if I 'defamed' the Corsa on the basis that my mate had a Nova that faded away into a pile of rust you'd be first to point out how ridiculous I was being.

 

[MikeHiow]

That's in a completely different context - his E34 was ****, I wasn't saying they are bad cars, I said BMW parts are generally expensive, which is true no matter what age the car is.

 

[[TW]Fox]

BMW parts are not really any more expensive than any other comparable cars.

 

[mrk]

They're only usually expensive if you get them only from the nearest main dealer.

Otherwise they can be as cheap as any other car if you get genuine parts elsewhere...

 

[Jez]

That's in a completely different context - his E34 was ****, I wasn't saying they are bad cars, I said BMW parts are generally expensive, which is true no matter what age the car is.

If you really believe this to be the case then surely it is best to avoid any premium brand cars and stop caring? BMW is actually one of the more reasonable marques when it comes to servicing and maintenance - i cant get anywhere near BMW prices for my Merc's for example.

 

[Gaygle]

You're missing the point entirely, I was using examples that I had experience of to demonstrate the costs of repairing a BMW, it doesn't need to be relevant to a 120d, regardless of the thread title.

Why are you comparing parts for cars made over 20 years ago to prove your point?! Why not compare parts from more modern BMW's/Vauxhalls and see if there is the same price differential (which i can guarantee there won't be). ie. compare a 2009 3-series PAS pump with a 2009 Vectra PAS pump. At least that way it'll be a lot more relevant to most people.

The 1988 BMW PAS pump you posted earlier will only be that expensive because it'll be such a rare part, not because it's an expensive part.

Yet again, all I was doing is expressing my interest and concerns in the Brand/1 Series after reading this thread, yet its been turned into a witch hunt, because I defamed the sacred BMW name :/

You're trying to make a point that BMW parts are expensive based on the fact that one part from a 21 year old BMW costs £1500 these days - how can you not see how dumb that is??

 

[MikeHiow]

It was one point, the SMG box being another. There are countless stories over many forums of people being being bent over for BMW repairs, I chose the examples I did, because those were the ones I knew to be true, not just what I read on the internet.

Another example is a discussion I had with a friend on Saturday night, who works for a very large and well known BMW tuner, who told me to avoid E60 M5s like the plague once out of warranty, for the same reasons.

And Mercs just don't do it for me (and are not what are being discussed), so they really are irrelevant.

 

[Jez]

And Mercs just don't do it for me (and are not what are being discussed), so they really are irrelevant.

The point was raised to highlight how out of touch you appear to be. BMW being one of the better value "premium" marques when it comes to aftersales.

Best to just ignore premium cars in your position where you clearly think that they are overpriced, do you not think?

 

[[TW]Fox]

avoid E60 M5s like the plague once out of warranty, for the same reasons.

Are you for real? First you say don't buy a 1 Series because a 1988 E34 has an expensive PAS pump. Then you are made to look silly.

Now you shouldn't buy a 1 Series because an E60 M5, a £65,000 V10 powered megasaloon, costs lots to repair.

I await your next pearl of wisdom.

 

[Firestar_3x]

Don't buy a model plane because an airbus A380 costs lots in fuel.

The drugs must be really strong on the Isle of Wight.

 

[mrk]

Or a bicycle because motorbikes need tax!

 

[MikeHiow]

Where have I said don't buy a 1 Series?

I'm not sure how many times I have to say it, all I said was that BMW repair costs put me off buying one.

Do you ignore all the relevant parts of peoples posts because you're genuinely stupid, or do you ignore them in favour of the parts that work well for your non-argument?

 

[Jez]

because you're genuinely stupid

lol

The issue people are having, is that you make no relevant points. BMW are one of the more reasonable premium brands when it comes to aftersales. Virtually everyone else is more expensive. If it put you off buying one then thats your choice, but if it did then you are pretty much going to always be restricted to low end cars only.

 

[[TW]Fox]

I'm not sure how many times I have to say it, all I said was that BMW repair costs put me off buying one.

So the cost to repair a 1988 518i or a 2009 E60 M5 puts you off buying a 1 Series?

There is no way I'm buying a Corsa SXi. Have you SEEN how much it costs to fix a Vauxhall VXR8 Bathurst S?

Do you ignore all the relevant parts of peoples posts because you're genuinely stupid, or do you ignore them in favour of the parts that work well for your non-argument?

I've yet to see any relevant parts in your posts?

 

[MikeHiow]

So the cost to repair a 1988 518i or a 2009 E60 M5 puts you off buying a 1 Series?

I'll repeat myself again, these are just examples, are you telling me that a 135i wouldn't be an expensive repair, if something even moderately serious went wrong?