Latvian (insert sweary) drops a dog off a bridge

dangerstat said:
Sorry I don't get this. So if a cow is pushed off a bridge it's HUGELY different from it being shot in the head? That doesn't really compute here.
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I'm a vegetarian who believes given the choice to eat protein from any source I have no need to choose to eat meat. But I don't really care what others do, bu teven I can plainly see the difference between killing a cow, for its meat, for a reason other than pure enjoyment, and torturing an animal to death just to enjoy watching it die.

Its been an old wives tale, but ones thats true(as they often are) that murders, serial murders, rapists have a high incidence of abusing animals when they are younger. Its a very specific type of person, strictly NOT normal who can harm an animal purely to enjoy and revel in its pain and death. You often find out murderers and rapists killed animals as kids, because as a kid they had the twisted thoughts of wanting to kill people, but the first step is to kill something smaller and more vunerable, rather than start off killing a human who is bigger than you.

Frankly its beyond naive to pretend not to see the difference between killing an animal to eat its meat, and to simply enjoy causing pain, its two completely different motives, mind sets and emotions involved.

You can clearly see the difference between killing someone in cold blood and maybe enjoying it, getting off on it, and killing someone in self defence out of fear for your own safety or others. The act itself is the same, the method is unlikely to be the same, the motive is COMPLETELY different and the emotion involved is different. A cold blooded kill will probably enjoy killing, the person who killed in self defence will feel terrible, disgusted, ashamed for taking a life, etc, etc. Our emotions and reasoning for doing things is generally what makes us who we are.
 
I bet half you morons eat meat. While I agree the reasons for the killing, and the methods, are different - Both are completely and utterly unnecessary. Is killing an animal for its taste really that different from killing it for fun? You don't need to do it for survival, thats for sure.
 
well looking at the article the dog has many broken bones... and had first aid given to him.. it wont be long till someone takes him home, but it will be homeless in a month or two.. it's not like in UK.. there's always homeless dogs/cats walking around the city/houses i have never seen that in UK..
 
Why do people keep comparing animals being killed for their meat, fur or being used for testing with throwing a dog off a bridge for fun? Of course its different :rolleyes:.
 
drunkenmaster said:
I'm a vegetarian who believes given the choice to eat protein from any source I have no need to choose to eat meat. But I don't really care what others do, bu teven I can plainly see the difference between killing a cow, for its meat, for a reason other than pure enjoyment, and torturing an animal to death just to enjoy watching it die.
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As people can get their protein needs from non animal sources then surely the only reason to kill animals for it is because you enjoy the taste? Therefore the animal is dying for enjoyment?
 
The story is pretty sickening but I think it's the replies to this thread from some people that have ****** me off the most.

If you don't care about a race of animals that have been our biggest companions for centurys, helping those of us who are lonely and showing nothing but compassion and love for the human race then fine, but you can't even feel a little sadness for one being thrown off a bridge because you see it as equal to killing a battery hen? The logic might be there but the compassion sure isn't, and it's that ability that makes us human.
 
Sawell said:
The story is pretty sickening but I think it's the replies to this thread from some people that have ****** me off the most.

If you don't care about a race of animals that have been our biggest companions for centurys, helping those of us who are lonely and showing nothing but compassion and love for the human race then fine, but you can't even feel a little sadness for one being thrown off a bridge because you see it as equal to killing a battery hen? The logic might be there but the compassion sure isn't, and it's that ability that makes us human.
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No. Something like shark fining is far, far worse than this (not that I'm asking anyone to care and not that I do anything about it) yet those creatures are routinely demonised by humans because they're scary looking and alien to us.

People just sympathise with dogs because they're cute n' fluffy. Emotional reactions to these kind of incidents are usually OTT and just not thought through.
 
Kristoph said:
How do most people feel about the featured video on ******** with the fish alive whilst half fried and still breathing?
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I thought it was horrific. He gets a knife and cuts all the scales off whilst it's alive until the fish is down to his raw meat and then starts frying him all whilst hes still flopping about in agony. I really don't care what kind of animal/fish it is, if it's unecessary pain then it's cruel.
 
RDM said:
As people can get their protein needs from non animal sources then surely the only reason to kill animals for it is because you enjoy the taste? Therefore the animal is dying for enjoyment?
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Pretty much. And everyone is acting as if they don't wear leather or whatever.

If you're shoes come from, lets say China, its entirely possible the cow(s) killed for that leather weren't done so in a humane manner. Therefore the consumer has just contributed to some good old animal cruelty yet doesn't bat an eyelid.

All the upset people should visit the PETA website more. So much stuff to get angry about on there :p (even if half of it probably isn't true).
 
That is horrific, calling that man a sicko is too mild for him, the same can be said of the idiots filming it.
 
Chimerical said:
No. Something like shark fining is far, far worse than this (not that I'm asking anyone to care and not that I do anything about it) yet those creatures are routinely demonised by humans because they're scary looking and alien to us.

People just sympathise with dogs because they're cute n' fluffy. Emotional reactions to these kind of incidents are usually OTT and just not thought through.
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Because we don't give a **** about sharks. Humans are allowed to be shallow compassionates you know? We're allowed to like animals that like us and hate those that kill us. That's pretty much what life is about. That's why you're sad when your favourite celebrity dies but don't give a crap if Saddam Hussein is slowly tortured. You don't know either of them but build an opinion based on experience. Humans experience with dogs has been great, we're allowed to subsequently show compassion for them. You can go save the sharks. Just don't expect to go swimming and get a hug from it after.
 
Poor doggy :( Dogs are my favourite animals.

Perhaps the man could no longer afford to keep the dog, but there are nice ways to kill a dog than landing on the floor from a high fall.

I don't think i would physically be able to do that due to my mind stopping me.
 
Sawell said:
Because we don't give a **** about sharks. Humans are allowed to be shallow compassionates you know? We're allowed to like animals that like us and hate those that kill us. That's pretty much what life is about. That's why you're sad when your favourite celebrity dies but don't give a crap if Saddam Hussein is slowly tortured. You don't know either of them but build an opinion based on experience. Humans experience with dogs has been great, we're allowed to subsequently show compassion for them. You can go save the sharks. Just don't expect to go swimming and get a hug from it after.
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Errrr.

Seriously, is that your reply? After that comment about wanting to show compassion?

Lol.
 
Chimerical said:
Errrr.

Seriously, is that your reply? After that comment about wanting to show compassion?

Lol.
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You obviously didn't understand the context of my post. It was about dogs, not compassion for all animals. Which is why I compared it to battery hens in the first place. Perhaps you should read arguments before formulating responses.
 
Wow. I haven't watched the video and frankly I don't want to. I just wanted to say that the replies in this thread are perhaps even scarier than the idea of that video. It strikes me, as a man who goes hunting, humanely kills and prepares his own food, and has no shame in admitting an enjoyment for good meat, leather and fur, that those who are proclaiming to be vegetarian or anti this and that, are those who are the most disconnected from the natural world. Ironic.

How someone can equate tossing a dog (or any living creature) from a bridge to watch it yelp and squeal in pain for the lols, to a quick and humane death (regardless of what the carcass is used for later) is beyond me. It seems that, contrary to urban myth, those of us still working closely with nature are much more in touch with the way of things after all.

Basically torturing things for amusement is NOT the same as humane slaughter no matter how you try to dress it up in anthropomorphic terms. One causes incredible pain and suffering for amusement, the other is virtually instant and produces a usable end product.

For those who say it doesn't matter and if you're a proponent of humane slaughter for meat/fur/leather then it "must be OK" to drop dogs off bridges, have you got any pets? If so, please make a point of asking your vet to club them to death with a supple branch instead of using a lethal injection next time the need arises. After all, it's no different right?
 
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