Problem with classification of a vehicle...

Wow, multi-quote.

Tried walking into a police station with it and asking?

Or contact DVLA? They cover road tax, and i'm sure they will tell you something along the lines of "as it doesn't have road tax on it, it goes on the path".

Andy
 
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What, like a pushbike doesn't?
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Same thing, a pushbike doesnt have road tax, so it goes on the path or cycle path.

Round here, they let you go on the patch or on the road.

Andy
 
i really dont get why this is an issue or more to the fact why are you contacting VOSA????
its a ******* scooter ride it on the pavement
if you get trouble from the police say. Im sorry officer i had no idea you could not ride on the pavement....... wait till there gone and carry on doing what you were doing

i got told off for riding my bike in the town centre once (it was after the shops had closed??)


three rules for dealing with police
1: be polite
2: claim ignorance (im sorry officer i had no idea i couldnt)
3: be polite

wait till they have gone and carry on with what you were doing
 
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Kenai said:
What I would do is write to the local police, enquire about why you aren't allowed on the pavement and under what legislation etc.

You'll hopefully either get a reply explaining exactly why you can't use it or you'll have in writing a confirmation that you can use it, in which case just carry that around and if challenged you can show the officer you have confirmed you are allowed to use it.
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this. your local police are making up there own laws by the sounds of it

since your pushing and it doesnt have a seat above a certain height it is probably classed as a toy. ( just like a bmx technically is if you go by the ancient legislation thats still used )

ps : dont the fat tyres slow it down loads ? if you mainly ride on road/path wouldnt some slim slicks be better ?
 
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Bennie-Mac said:
I dont see how using it on the pavement would be a problem tbh, those suicidal old ppl on their mobility scooters speed down the pavements with no problems legally. At least you would have better reactions :) Its still a silly looking thing though!
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IIRC Mobility type scooters have a specific exemption under the law, and come in at least two classes, one of which is allowed on the pavement, the other isn't.
Things like Sedgeways however are still I believe technically illegal to use on pavements*, or the roads** (but fine on private land), despite being no faster than the mobility scooters, and not falling under any other vehicle type :)

So there are definitely odd/grey areas to the law in regards to what is legal and what isn't on public land in terms of vehicles, be they powered by batteries/combustible materials, or by foot.

*Motorised without an exemption.
**Not compliant with any of the lighting/safety regs, and no exemption from them.
 
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Do.. not... want?
 
There's been no "Road Tax" since the '30s. It's now "Vehicle Excise Duty" which is paid on all carbon emitting vehicles above a certain level. The roads are paid for as part of regular taxes, so unless the OP is not paying taxes, he's already paid for the right to use it on the road.
 
In the end I never contacted the VOSA, I emailed the DVA and VCA to see if either of them can help and if they tell me to sod off I suppose the last person I can talk to is York's MP Anyway, on to the epic(ish) multiquote:


Do.. not... want?
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*Do Not Walk
There used to be things like this called Scootek (SP?) years ago. I had one and thought of it as a BMX scooter. Looking on Google, they are still about under various names.
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I’m intrigued and can’t seem to find anything on them on Google, any chance of linking me?
IIRC Mobility type scooters have a specific exemption under the law, and come in at least two classes, one of which is allowed on the pavement, the other isn't.
Things like Sedgeways however are still I believe technically illegal to use on pavements*, or the roads** (but fine on private land), despite being no faster than the mobility scooters, and not falling under any other vehicle type

So there are definitely odd/grey areas to the law in regards to what is legal and what isn't on public land in terms of vehicles, be they powered by batteries/combustible materials, or by foot.

*Motorised without an exemption.
**Not compliant with any of the lighting/safety regs, and no exemption from them.
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Yep, there are those capable of 4mph+ (no lights required at night, only allowed to go on the pavement) and the ones that go up to 8mph (lights required at night on the road, capable of going on road or footpath), my scooter would come under the latter
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Originally Posted by "andy" ps : dont the fat tyres slow it down loads ? if you mainly ride on road/path wouldnt some slim slicks be better ?
Exactly, pointless. Kind of like swimming in treacle, without the tasty benefits.
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It keeps you fitter than cycling because of the weight and resistance, and you’ve obviously never tasted the delicacies of flies in the mouth, it’s beautiful :p
Your local police are making up there own laws by the sounds of it

since your pushing and it doesnt have a seat above a certain height it is probably classed as a toy. ( just like a bmx technically is if you go by the ancient legislation thats still used )

ps : dont the fat tyres slow it down loads ? if you mainly ride on road/path wouldnt some slim slicks be better ?
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Unfortunately telling them to stuff themselves would get me arrested for verbally abusing a police officer :/ I hope it doesn’t come under the same classification as a BMX because they’re meant to be on the road as well
Ps. It does slow it down a fair bit, but that just makes it harder to accelerate. I would get slicks but they’re illegal to have outside of racetracks, and I doubt they’ll do regular bike tread for ATV wheels that are specially made for the scooter.
It's a scooter with fat tyres, just the same as those kids scooters with rollerblade wheels, a scooter...
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Or so I thought…
I really dont get why this is an issue or more to the fact why are you contacting VOSA????
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three rules for dealing with police
1: be polite
2: claim ignorance (im sorry officer i had no idea i couldnt)
3: be polite

wait till they have gone and carry on with what you were doing
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That’s pretty much what I’ve been doing so far, but I like the idea of having not to be fined or have it confiscated if I come across the same copper twice. I’m contacting them so I can actually not be worried about getting a £30 on the spot fine which (as an unemployed student) I can’t afford, and it’d increase to £80 by the time I could pay it
Wow, multi-quote.

Tried walking into a police station with it and asking?

Or contact DVLA? They cover road tax, and i'm sure they will tell you something along the lines of "as it doesn't have road tax on it, it goes on the path".

Andy
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I would do, but as I said before it’s the problem of the potential outright banning of it on public highways altogether that puts me off
 
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monkeypants said:
There's been no "Road Tax" since the '30s. It's now "Vehicle Excise Duty" which is paid on all carbon emitting vehicles above a certain level. The roads are paid for as part of regular taxes, so unless the OP is not paying taxes, he's already paid for the right to use it on the road.
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Now to be awkward - if the OP is riding it, then the vehicle+operator is emmiting CO2 hence should be liable for taxing

(i.e.he's breathing, like every other bike user)

BTW there's no tax to pay on this and as long as its strucurally safe you'll be fine on the road - as for the pavement, its; the police's discretion whether youa re causing a danger/nusiance to other by doing so.

edit : holy multi-quote mania :o
 
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