How the hell do brains work?!

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Ok, i was having this reallllyyy deep conversation with my mate. You know the ones, "why are we here", "are their aliens", "what happens when you die".. and we got talking about brains.. How do they work? You decide you want to move your arm up and your brain sends you electrical nerves to do this? So its electricity and muscle working which get people speaking and moving? Wheres the information stored that lets you remmeber words and calculate sums..

How did something evolve to have a brain? and if they are electric nerves then couldnt we make one seeing as we can harnace the power of electricity?

Im confused... and I appreciate you all arent brain surgeons, im just curious if you could shed some light.
 
I don't think it can be explained in simpleton terms. You cant comprehend it becuase you are so used to reality. You kind of need to be detached from what your brain says it pure madness and be a little crazy to start to comprehend what is happening and has happend over millions and millions of years as we've evolved.
 
From my very limited knowledge, our actions, memories, motor skills etc are all controlled by various groups of nerve cells linked in the brain and communicating by electrical impulses. I think memories are stored by the way the cells are linked together, though it's not fully understood. You have to remember that things in the brain are not stored in a logical way as far as we would design something. It works more like how you think - not necessarily logically or in order.
 
Look up neural networks, they say that's how it works. How something like that evolves though I don't know, I'm not even sure it does.
 
There's debate amongst academics about even the most simple aspects of the brain. It's simply an amazing piece of kit. Neurons get excited and output an activation spike. Millions and millions of these collectively working together is where cognition arises and we have no idea how. We have models but they're relatively simplified abstractions from how they actually work.
 
Ok, i was having this reallllyyy deep conversation with my mate. You know the ones, "why are we here", "are their aliens", "what happens when you die".. and we got talking about brains.. How do they work? You decide you want to move your arm up and your brain sends you electrical nerves to do this? So its electricity and muscle working which get people speaking and moving? Wheres the information stored that lets you remmeber words and calculate sums..

How did something evolve to have a brain? and if they are electric nerves then couldnt we make one seeing as we can harnace the power of electricity?

Im confused... and I appreciate you all arent brain surgeons, im just curious if you could shed some light.

In short, they really are unfathomably complicated, at least in their higher mammal form.

Brains and similar processing centres, in layman's terms, allow individual animals to react to their environment and to subsequently change their behaviour and physiology accordingly. At their most simple form, such as in crustaceans, they are little more than clusters of nerve ganglion, a far cry to the phenomenal processing abilities you see in humans. As a layman's analogy, think of the evolution of the brain over time as similar as to how we upgrade our PC hardware to run more advanced software :)

In terms of electricity, it is better to use the phrase 'electrical impulses'. Nerves work by having a balance of chemicals inside and outside of them - as you might know from basic chemistry, different chemicals can be charged positively of negatively (these are called 'ions'). When we are poked, pressure causes the nerves to open up channels at one end, causing the ions to fly in and out. The change in electrical potential causes essentially a microscopic 'Mexican wave' along the length of the nerve, which is passed on to the next nerve. This is called an action potential, and all nerves operate this way, although they may be stimulated differently. For example, the cells in your eye cause action potentials by absorbing different frequencies of light.

As a bit of food for thought, if you touch something very hot or sharp, you will have a reflex response to move your hand away from the harmful stimuli. This message shoots from your hand to your spine via nerves, but it doesn't actually go to the brain - the spine sends back the appropriate response to minimise any time delay.

So, yes, it is an incredible piece of machinery that continues to mystify and amaze. Hot it allows me to remember information from many years ago, I cannot say - but it will be interesting to learn more as our understanding develops :)
 
Brilliant post Nitefly.

As a bit of food for thought, if you touch something very hot or sharp, you will have a reflex response to move your hand away from the harmful stimuli. This message shoots from your hand to your spine via nerves, but it doesn't actually go to the brain - the spine sends back the appropriate response to minimise any time delay.

Wow...
 
Oh, by spine I meant spinal chord - I'm getting rusty :o

Any one who knows better please correct or add more, it makes for interesting reading :)
 
you smoke a lot of pot, yeah?

used to yea but surprisingly me and my friend were perfectly sober at the time lol..

And yea I understand what your saying about the reaction to move away from a hot object but it was just the general learning of the brain etc which I found so interesting..

I really think scientists should do some more research into it to be honest.
 
What happened if for some crazy reason , the Spinal Chord began making up more commands then just your basic *quickly move hand something is hot* to Need to Survive at all costs , and an epic battle beteen the Spinal chord and the brain was to begin.
 
A lot like a processor works actually, transferring of electrical impulses to different parts, which serve different functions. In essence we are all simply biological computers programmed to act like human beings.
 
What happened if for some crazy reason , the Spinal Chord began making up more commands then just your basic *quickly move hand something is hot* to Need to Survive at all costs , and an epic battle beteen the Spinal chord and the brain was to begin.

Well I guess the spinal chord could just off carrying messages and the brain would die, a la people who severe it :p.
 
Sorry to be pedantic but it's cord not chord...

A recent Horizon was about conciousness, The Secret You, give it a try - some of it is really interesting.
 
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