HAF992 or Raven 2?

I would say tempwise, the HAF 922 would be better, but the Raven looks more spacious, but larger as well. I'd say go HAF on my opinion though.
 
I have the 922 and the open mess allround makes it a little noisy. The Raven is silent compared to it. It's possible the 922 will have better cooling especially with 2x120mm optional side fans or the 200mm led fan you can get from the coolermaster shop. If I was picking between the 2, and my motherboard fitted (rampage is 1/2 inch to deep), I'd get the Raven RV02.
 
Hmm if the Raven is silent then ill most likely get thatm allthough is it just the RampageII Extreme that is to deep for it?
Fits easily, it's just couple centimers bigger and not E-ATX.

http://images.bit-tech.net/content_images/2009/11/silverstone-raven-rv02-case-review/5.jpg
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/foru...page-ii-extreme-x58-motherboard-review-5.html



It's possible the 922 will have better cooling especially with 2x120mm optional side fans or the 200mm led fan
More possible that those just mess cooling instead of increasing it.
 
Fits easily, it's just couple centimers bigger and not E-ATX.

http://images.bit-tech.net/content_images/2009/11/silverstone-raven-rv02-case-review/5.jpg
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/foru...page-ii-extreme-x58-motherboard-review-5.html



More possible that those just mess cooling instead of increasing it.

Cool. Didn't know it fitted. It's exactly 1 inch wider than standad ATX motherboard. Rampage is same dimesions as Supercomputer and thought they were too deep for the RV02. Stand corrected.

The side fan does not mess with the cooling on the HAF. I added it to my HAF922 and it decreased GPU temps by 5-8 degrees on average. And also brought down chipset temps. In fact my GPU's dont hit 80 degree anymore. I do realise side fans can upset the natural airflow in a case from front to back and I generally dont like them over the noise (which is why I am buying an ATCS 840), but the front ariflow on the HAF is slightly compromised anyway when you fill the HDD bays. You really need the 200mm side fan to tackle the gpu temps when front airflow isn't optimal. I tried before and after, and it definitely worked for me. Of course I have seen cases where the sidefan did nothing at all, like the Cosmos S. Generally speaking I think sidefans are a bad idea though, but surpsiingly worked well in the 922.

Esat, I have a thread on the CM 840. As you seem to be very knowegeable on cases, could you comment on it please. Ta.
 
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Adding the optional 200mm side fan to the 922 adds to the cooling rather than messing it up.

I've got one and temperatures dropped significantly enough on the graphics card. The processor idles at roughly the same temperature but is cooler under load and the chipset is cooler as well.

Flanno what speeds do you have the fans spinning at? Mine are running off the mainboard headers but at 60% load, I can't really hear them at all. I changed to a Megahelems cooler lately and have two 120mm on that working in push pull, they provide the noise in my case and I really need to get around to changing them to Gentle Typhoons or something. I previously had a Tuniq Tower and that had a quieter fan on it.
 
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I run all 3 sidefans off my mainboard headers. Not loud but they quality of the noise isn't the best. Sidefan makes faint buzzing but hard to hear when case is on the floor and generally speaking the open mesh on the top, front and side of case has all the noise leaking out anyway. Which is why I am going to move to the Coolermaster 840.

Anyway here is the way I have it setup.

1. Sidefan off Opt2 header at 100% which is around 700rpm.

2. Front fan intake and Top fan outake running off CaseFan header1 and 2.
I have them set to turbo mode in bios, which keeps them running under 600rpm most of the time. If you let them run at default (700+) you can definitely notice them.

3. Reear fan outtake. I replaced this with a Corsair H50 and 2 Akasa Apache PWM fans in push pull. The Apaches are plugged into an Akasa PWM splitter cable which goes to the CPU fan header. They usually run between 900 and 1200 rpm depending on ambient temps in room and load. Have never seen them hit 1450rpm.
 
Are those PWM splitters available seperately? If I grab a couple of Gentle Typhoons and use one of those it will probably cut down on the current noise and will hopefully do ok on the cooling front. I am using some horrible generic things at the moment unfortunately.

Running at turbo makes my computer somewhat noisier so I don't, the fans shift a lot of air anyway so unless I was going for silly overclocks (on air :P) I leave everything running more quietly.
 
Here
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CB-031-AK&groupid=701&catid=48&subcat=153

1 cable will let you run 3pwm fans. Power comes from molex connector. And the cpu header on the mobo or any 4pin header on the board will control the speed of the fans automatically providing its switched on in the bios. You could also use your motherboard monitoring software to do it. e.g. Fan Xpert on Asus mobos.

However I am not sure your Typhoon fans are 4pin models. If they are not then this splitter will be of no use to you. I recommend Akasa Apaches instead. Pretty quiet. And they have very good static pressure. I run 2 with my Corsair H50.
 

Cheers Flanno, will see if I can find them over here :). Some good places in the Netherlands actually so I imagine I will.

I don't have the Typhoons yet (well, I have two in my case but they are staying there) but they are 3 pin rather than 4, so I will look into the Apaches.
 
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I like the 932 better tan the 922 but it depends on whether you want a bigger case or more importantly, if you can stretch to it
 
The 922 has a slightly deeper motherboard tray than the 932 unbelievably enough. So it's easier to mount a 120mm fan in bottom as it won't usually be blocked by a long PSU. And it can take a 5970 card as well as the 932. The 922 also has rubber strips to support the psu mounting and not just metal like on the 932. The 922 also has filters for the 5.25" bay covers and another for the front intake. It uses thumscrews for the pci slots which I prefer to the 932's plastic retention clips. And finally you can turn off the red led on the front fan. Oh..it also has an 8th pci slot mounted horizontally above the other 7 slots. So ideal for a card cooler, fan controller etc..

In terms of air cooling I believe the 922 is slightly better than the 932 if you add the optional CM 200mm fan to the sidepanel (available from the CM shop) which benefit the gpu cooling as the front fan is slightly restricted if you have a lot of hard drives. But it's really the CPU cooling that's a little different. The 922's top exhaust fan is placed very close to the cpu heatsink so sucks hot air right off it. The 932's on the other hand because it's a taller case has the top cpu fan positioned a good 3 or 4 inches away from your cpu fan. Basically the hot air on the 932 compared to the 922 has further to travel before being expelled. One last thing there is ZERO difference in specs between the 932 230mm fans and 922 200mm fans. Both in fact have 190mm blades. It's just the frame that is wider on the 932.

The only reason to buy the 932 over the 922 is if you 1. prefer the 932's looks, 2. want to do water cooling as it's got way more room in top, 3. plan to replace the side 230mm fan and/or top 230mm fan with 120's - the 932 can take 1 extra 120 in each location, so again way more suitable for larger rads for water cooling or 4. just want extra 5.25" bays.

Personally I'd get the Raven though. It cools very well. I know this first hand now as my mate is cooling a spec very similar to mine with slightly better results. All sites give it mega reviews for cooling bar bit-tech who based their review off the custompc mag review. The fact is if you have dual slot video cards which exhaust hot air, the bottom fans are going to help with that, and any extra hot air will be vented out naturally at the top and not get trapped. So the single 120mm exhaust fan is enough. And it's dead quiet and looks killer. It has 8 pci slots too so tri fire is easily done. Plus you can pick up spare silverstone 180mm fans from many US online shops. It's only 2 minus's is it officially only supports 10.5" cards but you can definitely fit a 5970 you remove the middle bottom fan grille and it only has 3 hard drive bays, but it comes with a bracket to fit an SSD on the back of the motherboard tray. I'm planning to get it's brother the Fortress FT-02 when it comes out in December. It should be even quieter over the sidepanel dampning, has unibody aluminium contruction, and can take up to 12" cards. Only 7 pci slots though :(
 
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