Mininova deletes all illegal material

I would be a liar if I said I never broke a law, I doubt anyone can truly say that.

I morally abide by the law and commit no crimes that have victims.

Regardless, in the case of copyright infringement perhaps if they there was tangible value for paying and getting a physical copy, being in the cinema or simply more viewer convenient (ala full on digital distribution) the business model might get somewhere. As of this point they are fighting a battle they cannot win.

Mass audience product needs incentive and value. People pay tickets to get see a band live in concert but they also happen to tour. Imagine they did it in one place only on one day only and demanded their money, if you cannot make it then tough you never get to see. What's going to happen? People will watch it "for free" from recordings. OH NO CALL THE POLICE LAW BREAKER.
 
stockhausen said:
Ooohhh, go on, do please explain to me the difference between newsgroups and usenet, please sir, please?
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Usenet is a world-wide distributed discussion system. Usenet was, and still is primarily used to exchange articles with identifiable labels, called newsgroups (or groups).

But that wasn't what my original post said. I said trying to explain it, not the difference between usenet and newsgroups.
 
fendi said:
downloading is wrong folks.

especially stuff like adobe master collection etc. save up your pennies and buy the stuff you are stealing :D
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If I had a business making money using Adobes products, yes I would buy it.

If I'm at home doing a few hobby videos and images then, no I won't buy.
 
Well this is good, perhaps when all torrents sites are down then people have to buy the things they want. The companies will get more money and then be able to provide more media of better quality. They'll be less complaining about lost sales due to piracy at least.
 
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Calabi said:
Well this is good, perhaps when all torrents sites are down and people have to buy the things they want.
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This assumes that what people are downloading are things that they would have paid for had it not been available for free.
 
Johnnytoxic said:
If I had a business making money using Adobes products, yes I would buy it. ...
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If I made money out of using a mobile 'phone, I wouldn't make calls on other people's mobiles, but I don't . . .

If I ran Interflora, I wouldn't steal flowers out of other people's front garden to give to my girlfriend, but I don't . . .

If I ran a minicab service, I wouldn't syphon petrol out of people's cars, but I don't . . .

etc., etc., etc.
 
never used mininova really cuz im a bit paranoid about the people who your connecting to not being people but rather government organisations! i tend to stick the private trackers where security is much tighter. I dont think this is going to affect the torrenting world one bit, theres allways going to be other torrent sites popping up!
 
stockhausen said:
If I made money out of using a mobile 'phone, I wouldn't make calls on other people's mobiles, but I don't . . .

If I ran Interflora, I wouldn't steal flowers out of other people's front garden to give to my girlfriend, but I don't . . .

If I ran a minicab service, I wouldn't syphon petrol out of people's cars, but I don't . . .

etc., etc., etc.
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Crap analogies are crap.
 
stockhausen said:
If I made money out of using a mobile 'phone, I wouldn't make calls on other people's mobiles, but I don't . . .

If I ran Interflora, I wouldn't steal flowers out of other people's front garden to give to my girlfriend, but I don't . . .

If I ran a minicab service, I wouldn't syphon petrol out of people's cars, but I don't . . .

etc., etc., etc.
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Adobe knows it happens if people didnt get used to Ps though piracy it wouldn't have such great returned in the corporate sector.


Should all Gfx design students have to pay 1k + for it?
 
There's nothing new happening here, they're just picking off the easy targets and forcing the underground "scene" further underground. More fool anyone downloading through public methods, you're asking for trouble.
 
Wipe said:
Of course not hence the discount :p
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Indeed. I got Adobe Illustrator, Acrobat and Photoshop for about £70 for home and the entire Adobe suite for £160 odd for work (different licenses).

I got Vista for £30 (Win 7 is also this price) and Office 2007 for £38 (both free in work). With prices like that, it is impossible to justify piracy.

Everything else I use is freeware, or occasionally small bits I've paid for (e.g. NCP vpn client).

However, my problem is the timing of tv series - and coverage. Some don't even make it to the UK.
 
krooton said:
Your 3 analogies all revolve around someone else being deprived of something, copyright infringement is not the same.
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I suspect that many people who write books, play and record music and develop software do so with some expectation of being paid money for their effort?

Piracy does rather circumvent this in that they are deprived of payment, doesn't it?

As a result, I really don't have a problem with piracy being described as theft . . . it seems that we don't agree on this . . . I suspect that most victims of piracy would side with me rather than with you over this . . . c'est la vie . . .
 
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