Amature track car project - Advice needed
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Not my car, but don't underestimate the 205 GTi, and that has an 8v not a 16v, with an MI16 engine they are mental!
Was a very quick car (ours was the mk1 that was in it from about 6:26-6:50). In my defence it looks like it was still early in the day (probably only my first or second ever run on that circuit) and I will have been on crap tyres at theat point
Sounds awesome actually, although for almost £800 I think I will have to research a cheaper but decent experience day as it sounds like a very good thing to do (and fun too!). Anyone been on a good but cheaper one?Granted a lot of them are. Palmer sport aint. You get to drive a big XKR jag thats been race preped.. So heavier RWD. A Caterham 7 super light. So light rwd. A clio cup racer. So light fwd and even a 911 stripped out so rwd rear engined. Then you have the JP1 and formula jag cars. You get about 6-8 laps in each at full chat with the instructors pushing you every step of the way. Expensive but he will defo come away with a much better idea of what he enjoyed and wants.
Oh man I see what you were saying about it being more about the driver than the machine! That 205 must have a performance upgrade other than just being stripped right? And I noticed the lift off oversteer you mentioned as well, does look quite enjoyable.Not my car, but don't underestimate the 205 GTi, and that has an 8v not a 16v, with an MI16 engine they are mental!
Yeah it does look quite nice, a lot of run off room and pretty fast corners so would be good for a beginner.
Yeah I get what you mean, the sturdiness, sound proofing, and well the general solidity of the cars which are generally perceived to be "better" adds a great amount of weight killing the cars performance. Maybe I should re-think the BMW idea...It is kinda Ironic that cheap metal and plastics, the reasons the low end PSA models are noisy (rattles, bumps, bit falling off) on road, is one of the reasons they make great lightweight track cars
Cheers man, I can't wait to make my purchase! And the Nürburgring is the dream! I've had the track memorised for years from playing computer games and I can't wait to actually drive it in real life! Although I'm going to get as much track experience on "easier" circuits before I "meet my hero".
I think the 205 is cammed and carbed, so maybe 140 bhp 1600 turbo will make @190bhp
MI16 will be better, slightly heavier but 163 bhp, and then cams and carbs... N/A is better on a track than a turbo of slightly higher peak bhp.
Only experience day I ever did was a rally day in a Mk2 Escort was one of my most fun days ever, a 25 yr old car on gravel, sideways.... Heaven.
MI16 will be better, slightly heavier but 163 bhp, and then cams and carbs... N/A is better on a track than a turbo of slightly higher peak bhp.
Only experience day I ever did was a rally day in a Mk2 Escort was one of my most fun days ever, a 25 yr old car on gravel, sideways.... Heaven.
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Chap I know has 180bhp from a NA 1.9, though this is not cheap.
Oh yeah, I have seen 160 from a 1.6 had a much raised rev limit as well...
That engine can be awesome if you throw some cash at it.
I'd go for something a bit different, N/A MK4 Supra, manual gearbox in tatty condition for 2k. Strip absolutely everything out of it and sell it to make a few quid back, use that and the remaining cash for brake and suspension upgrades and a decent oil coolder. 220 bhp, RWD and an absolutely bullet proof engine. Although a little heavy, with a decent suspension setup it will be more than quick enough!
That is true, but you can strip a huge amount of weight out if you are brutal enough, things like the seats are massively heavy and can be replaced with cheap buckets. Carpet, sound deadening, back seat, door trim, speakers, aircon, heater matrix can all go and you are looking at 150 kg lighter!
Then it's a 1.35 Tonne barge?
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The Supra is a GT, regardless of how much of the interior you take out it will always be a GT, its no use as a dedicated track car.
Oh man, my dream car is getting cussed 
I always knew it wasn't the best car for tracks but be kind fellas 
So are we saying a stripped n/a Supra would weigh more than a stripped E36 M3?
Another theoretical question for the future once our mechanical experience has vastly improved... What would be a good, light RWD base to swap a Supra or M3 engine into? Or would this just be futile?
I always knew it wasn't the best car for tracks but be kind fellas So are we saying a stripped n/a Supra would weigh more than a stripped E36 M3?
Another theoretical question for the future once our mechanical experience has vastly improved... What would be a good, light RWD base to swap a Supra or M3 engine into? Or would this just be futile?